BTC198: Institutions Adopting Bitcoin w/ Max Kei and Pascal Hugli (Bitcoin Podcast)

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Stig Brodersen

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🗓️ 4 September 2024

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, Preston interviews Max Kei and Pascal Hugli, diving deep into how Bitcoin's unique characteristics position it as the ultimate collateral for institutional lending. The discussion covers key topics such as risk management, the role of stablecoins, peer-to-peer lending versus traditional finance, and the future of Bitcoin in institutional portfolios. Max and Pascal share their perspectives on the barriers to institutional adoption, the evolving regulatory environment, and the innovations shaping the future of Bitcoin lending and borrowing platforms. In this episode, William Green chats with Harold J. (“Jay”) Bowen III, President & CIO of Bowen, Hanes & Company. Jay & his late father generated dazzling returns for their biggest client, the Tampa Firefighters’ & Police Officers’ Pension Fund. The fund’s stock portfolio has achieved an annualized return of 14.4% over 50 years & a cumulative return of more than 81,000%. Here, Jay explains how they pulled this off, sharing one of the great untold stories of the investment world. IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN: 00:00 - Intro 09:47 - How Bitcoin’s 24/7 liquidity and decentralized nature make it the most pristine collateral for lending and borrowing. 16:59 - The impact of Bitcoin’s deep liquidity on risk management strategies for institutions. 20:45 - The challenges and opportunities for institutions in adopting Bitcoin compared to traditional assets. 24:45 - Insights into Bitcoin’s performance in institutional portfolios and how it shapes future portfolio management. 32:13 - The future of Bitcoin lending and borrowing platforms and the innovations on the horizon. Disclaimer: Slight discrepancies in the timestamps may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES Max Kei’s Institutional Borrowing and Lending platform: Debifi. Max and Preston: The Future of Bitcoin Borrowing and Lending w/ Max Kei (BTC177). Max Kei's X Account and Nostr. Pascal Hugli’s X Account and Nostr. Check out all the books mentioned and discussed in our podcast episodes here. Enjoy ad-free episodes when you subscribe to our Premium Feed. NEW TO THE SHOW? Join the exclusive TIP Mastermind Community to engage in meaningful stock investing discussions with Stig, Clay, Kyle, and the other community members. Follow our official social media accounts: X (Twitter) | LinkedIn | Instagram | Facebook | TikTok. Check out our We Study Billionaires Starter Packs. Browse through all our episodes (complete with transcripts) here. Try our tool for picking stock winners and managing our portfolios: TIP Finance Tool. Enjoy exclusive perks from our favorite Apps and Services. Stay up-to-date on financial markets and investing strategies through our daily newsletter, We Study Markets. Learn how to better start, manage, and grow your business with the best business podcasts. SPONSORS Support our free podcast by supporting our sponsors: River Toyota Range Rover Sound Advisory American Express The Bitcoin Way Vacasa USPS Onramp SimpleMining Public Fundrise BAM Capital Shopify Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm

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0:00.0	You're listening to TIP.
0:02.0	Hey everyone, welcome to this Wednesday's release of the Bitcoin Fundamentals Podcast.
0:07.0	This episode is brought to you by River, the place that I personally go to securely invest in Bitcoin with confidence and with zero fees.
0:15.0	On today's show I have CEO and founder of the Institutional Bitcoin borrowing and lending platform
0:19.8	Debafie, Mr Max Kai.
0:22.0	And I'm also accompanied by Pascal Hugley who's from the Swiss Bank
0:25.3	Meerski Bauman. During this conversation we talk about institutional
0:29.3	Bitcoin adoption, what the institutions are getting right, what they're getting wrong from a custody and risk
0:34.9	mitigation standpoint, how Bitcoin is a completely different animal compared to how they traditionally
0:40.1	think about managing risk and collateral. Personally, I thoroughly enjoyed this conversation
0:45.0	mostly because I think it's one of the most important things traditional finance is missing
0:49.8	and needs to deeply understand. So without further delay, here's my chat with Max and Pascal.
0:59.2	Celebrating 10 years you are listening to Bitcoin Fundamentals by the Investors Podcast Network.
1:05.8	Now for your host, Bickw. Pascal here to talk about all things institutional borrowing lending
1:24.7	Bitcoin adoption conference that we just were able to spend time together so
1:29.3	guys welcome to the show
1:30.9	hey brusseum, thanks for having this.
1:34.0	All right, so this is where I want to start.
1:36.0	So I was there in Riga.
1:37.2	I've never been the Riga.
1:39.2	And this is in Latvia for folks that if you don't know your geography. This is over there by Poland kind of in that part of the world.
1:47.0	I've never been to this part of the world. I was blown away.
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