This is episode 43 of books and ideas and I'm your host Dr. Ginger Campbell.

Today's episode is one I hope you will share with others, which is why I'm also putting it into the

Brainsines Podcast Feed.

My guest today is Dr. Carol Tavris. to the brain science podcast feed.

My guest today is Dr. Carol Tavris, co-author of mistakes were made, but not by me,

why we justify foolish beliefs, bad decisions, and hurtful acts.

I was fortunate to meet Dr. Tavras last year at the amazing meeting in Las Vegas, and I'm glad that

we finally got together to record this interview.

In the first part of the interview, Tavros tells us a little bit about the field of social psychology and we talk about the relationship between psychology and neuroscience.

Then we get into the meat of the interview. between psychology and neuroscience.

Then we get into the meat of the interview,

which is about cognitive dissonance.

If you aren't familiar with cognitive dissonance,

I think you will be surprised to learn

how it applies to almost every aspect of human endeavor.

After the interview, I will be back to review a few of the key ideas and to tell you about how you can

learn more.

As always, you can find detailed show notes including links to references

and a free episode transcript at books and ideas.

com. calm.

Carol, I want to welcome you to the podcast and thank you for taking the time to talk with me today. It's my pleasure, Ginger.

And it's great to talk to you again, although probably not as much fun as talking in person,

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