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1 big thing

Brutal crackdowns as Afghanistan gets a new government

1 big thing

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🗓️ 9 September 2021

⏱️ 10 minutes

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The Taliban yesterday announced the first members of a new temporary Afghan government. And as Axios’ national security reporter Zach Basu writes, the interim cabinet is made up of mostly “old-guard Taliban officials.” Plus, disappointing jobs numbers with some glimmers of hope. And, actor Simu Liu on turning a movie into a movement. Guests: Axios' Zachary Basu, Kate Marino, and Hope King. Credits: Axios Today is produced in partnership with Pushkin Industries. The team includes Niala Boodhoo, Sara Kehaulani Goo, Dan Bobkoff, Alexandra Botti, Nuria Marquez Martinez, Sabeena Singhani, and Michael Hanf. Music is composed by Evan Viola. You can reach us at podcasts@axios.com. You can text questions, comments and story ideas to Niala as a text or voice memo to 202-918-4893. Go deeper: BONUS AUDIO: Simu Liu talks to Hope King about 'Shang-Chi's' success and what's next Taliban announce formation of caretaker Afghan government Deconstructing August's disappointing jobs report Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Good morning. Welcome to Axios today. It's Thursday, September 9th. I'm Nyla Boudou. Here's

0:09.6

what we're watching today. Disappointing job numbers with some glimmers of hope. Plus,

0:14.9

actor Simulou on turning a movie into a movement. But first, today's one big thing. Afghanistan's

0:21.8

new government. The Taliban yesterday announced the first members of a new temporary Afghan government.

0:32.0

And as Axios' national security reporter, Zach Basu writes, the interim cabinet is made of a

0:36.8

mostly old guard Taliban officials. He's Zach. I know. What do we need to know about this new government?

0:44.0

So, yeah, the Taliban announced the formation of this all-male cabinet, mostly dominated by

0:48.7

ethnic plush dunes and high-level Taliban loyalists, members of the old guard who served in the

0:54.0

first Taliban government in the 1990s. Just one key figure, Saraj Akhani, who was wanted by the FBI

1:01.2

and actually has a $10 million bounty on his head, has been named the Interior Minister, which would

1:07.2

essentially be the equivalent of the Justice Department or the Department of Homeland Security

1:12.3

in the US. He leads the Akhani network, which has been designated as a terrorist organization

1:17.6

by the US and maintains close ties to al-Qaeda. So, Zach, what has been American and other world

1:24.6

leaders' reactions to this? So, no countries have recognized the Taliban, but several have had

1:30.5

diplomatic engagement with them. Russia, China, Qatar, Iran, Turkey, and Pakistan have kept their

1:37.6

embassies in Kabul open. And I think we can expect a handful of those countries to ultimately

1:42.7

recognize the regime. And one point I like to make is that nobody's in a hurry to recognize the

1:46.8

Taliban. I think most world leaders, especially Western ones, are more concerned right now about

1:51.7

getting humanitarian aid to Afghanistan and preventing the humanitarian crisis. But in terms of

1:57.1

international recognition, it's really a waiting game to see what the permanent Taliban government

2:01.7

looks like. And the State Department has said that the Taliban's legitimacy is something that will

2:05.9

have to be earned over time and very much dependent on their actions and not just their words.

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