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Bruce Bueno de Mesquita on Democracies and Dictatorships

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🗓️ 12 February 2007

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

Bruce Bueno de Mesquita of NYU and Stanford University's Hoover Institution talks about the incentives facing dictators and democratic leaders. Both have to face competition from rivals. Both try to please their constituents and cronies to stay in power. He applies his insights to foreign aid, the Middle East, Venezuela, the potential for China's evolution to a more democratic system, and Cuba. Along the way, he explains why true democracy is more than just elections--it depends crucially on freedom of assembly and freedom of the press.

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0:00.0

Welcome to Econ Talk, part of the Library of Economics and Liberty. I'm your host Russ Roberts

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of George Mason University and Stanford University's Hoover Institution. Our website

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is econtalk.org where you can subscribe, find other episodes, comment on this podcast,

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find links and other information related to today's conversation. Our email address is

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mailaddykontalk.org. We'd love to hear from you.

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My guest today is Bruce Bueno de Mosquita, the Julius Silver Professor of Politics at New

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York University. He's a senior fellow with the Hoover Institution at Stanford University

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and the author of numerous books, including The Logic of Political Survival, co-authored

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with Alistair Smith, Randolph-Severson and James Morrow. A book that's had a big impact

0:58.8

on the way I think about politics and a book that was the subject of a podcast we did last

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summer. Bruce, welcome back to Econ Talk. Thank you, it's a pleasure.

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Bruce, I want to talk with you today about some of the policy differences between democracies

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and dictatorships and the incentives they face. So first, let's look at your theory of

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the selector it, the you outlined in The Logic of Political Survival. We all know about

1:20.6

the electorate, the people who vote in a democracy. What do you mean by the selector it?

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By the selector it, I mean the people who have a meaningful say in choosing who leaders

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are and in a democracy that is the outcome of elections is determined by how people

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vote. In a military junta, the selector it might be the general, perhaps some kernels,

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maybe some senior civil servants that would also be true in many autocracies although

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the civil servants would probably be a little bit more numerous. In monarchy, it might be the

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royal family and some key entrepreneurs and so forth. So the selector it is the set of people

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who have a say and it varies greatly in its side. When you say they have a say outside of

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