From tariffs that sent the markets reeling to legal immigrants having their status revoked, it's been quite a week.

We're going to turn now to the analysis of Brooks and Capehart. That is New York Times columnist David Brooks and Jonathan Capehart, Associate Editor for the Washington Post.

Great to see you both.

So, roller coaster week for the markets, as you've both seen driven almost entirely by this on-again, off-again tariffs policy.

Jonathan, the White House says this was all the art of the deal, that the countries are now lining up to negotiate separate country-by-country trade deals.

Do you see a strategy here, or do you see a president who saw markets plunging on his policies and blinked?

No, and yes. No, there's no strategy here. None at all. And yes, he saw the markets tanking and blinked.

But blinked, I think, primarily because of the bond markets. And you had a segment earlier where you talked all about this

but I think it's people need to understand and appreciate that while Donald

Trump has been able to defy political gravity this week he learned that he

cannot defy economic gravity and when the bond markets when folks who

usually go to the bond market, when the stock market is

going bananas and they decide to sell off their bonds, that has enormous implications for

the American economy, for bonds being the safe haven for the world, that's not the case anymore.

And the idea that he single-handedly is going to wrangle the world

to his view on tariffs is, I don't know how to describe it,

other than insane.

David, what do you make of that?

Yeah, I remember, wasn't it James Carville in the Clinton years?

You said when he died, he wanted to be reincarnated as the bond markets because they have all the power.

So there's some truth to that.

You know, I think there's been a shift.

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