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🗓️ 5 December 2025
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| 0:00.0 | From the fallout over a controversial boat strike to growing fractures inside the House GOP, lots to discuss tonight with Brooks and Capehart. |
| 0:08.4 | That's New York Times columnist David Brooks and Jonathan Capehart of MS Now. |
| 0:12.9 | Good evening, gentlemen. It's great to see you both. |
| 0:14.3 | Good, Jeff. See you. |
| 0:14.9 | So Washington has been consumed this past week with a debate over a series of strikes that killed two survivors of an initial attack |
| 0:21.9 | on a suspected Venezuelan drug boat back in September. And Jonathan, the administration |
| 0:27.2 | says that that strike and others like it are necessary to protect U.S. interests. When you look |
| 0:33.2 | at all that exists in the public realm right now. Does that rationale withstand scrutiny? |
| 0:38.6 | No, it doesn't. It would help if the president and the defense secretary, this administration, |
| 0:46.1 | would show us the evidence. You keep saying that these people are drug runners. So, and you know who |
| 0:52.6 | they are. So tell us. You keep saying that they are |
| 0:56.2 | shipping these drugs, that's what's in those boats. Well, show us, show us the evidence, but we don't, |
| 1:02.5 | we don't have the evidence. And the other thing is those two people who were killed in that second |
| 1:08.5 | strike, since then there have been others, and there have been survivors. |
| 1:14.0 | If this is such a war on drugs to protect the American people, |
| 1:18.3 | why aren't those survivors in U.S. federal custody and not repatriated to their countries? |
| 1:24.7 | There are so many questions here that go well beyond what we've been talking |
| 1:31.2 | about this week, and that's not to diminish the importance of why we're talking about this. |
| 1:36.5 | And, David, to that point, I mean, is the U.S., in your view, carrying out a counter-narcotics |
| 1:41.2 | mission in the Caribbean, or is this a show-of-force mission? And does the |
| 1:45.3 | administration itself seem clear on the difference? Well, it's more the latter than the former, |
| 1:51.1 | but, you know, frankly, to be a little crude, if you remember 2016, Donald Trump and Marco |
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