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PBS News Hour - Brooks and Capehart

Brooks and Capehart on Republicans facing backlash over federal cuts

PBS News Hour - Brooks and Capehart

PBS NewsHour

News, Politics

4.51.2K Ratings

🗓️ 21 February 2025

⏱️ 11 minutes

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New York Times columnist David Brooks and Washington Post associate editor Jonathan Capehart join Geoff Bennett to discuss the week in politics, including fresh tensions between the U.S. and Ukraine, town hall backlash to major cuts to the federal workforce and how inflation could sink Republicans. PBS News is supported by - https://www.pbs.org/newshour/about/funders

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0:00.0

From fresh tensions between the U.S. and Ukraine to town hall backlash to major cuts to the federal workforce.

0:07.9

We turn now to the analysis of Brooks and Capehart. That's New York Times columnist David Brooks and Jonathan Capehart, Associate Editor for the Washington Post.

0:16.2

It's great to have you here, as always. So let's start with Ukraine. No one expected Donald Trump to handle global

0:21.7

affairs like his predecessors, but he has fully adopted Russia's false propaganda on Ukraine,

0:27.7

calling Zelensky a dictator, falsely stating that it was Ukraine that started the war,

0:32.8

rhetorically turning against a democracy that was invaded in favor of the invader. What are the implications,

0:39.5

Steve? Yeah, it's pretty revolutionary. I mean, I think first you can say goodbye to NATO.

0:43.4

NATO is really built around Article 5, the promise we make to each other that we will defend each

0:47.7

other. And I don't think Trump is going to defend anybody else. But I think the bigger story

0:51.8

is a shift in values, that American foreign policy and Western

0:55.6

foreign policy has been built around democracy promotion, human dignity, human rights.

1:00.2

And so we banded together to sort of promote those causes.

1:03.2

Donald Trump doesn't see that world that way.

1:05.2

He sees the world as a place where ruthless mafiosos get to do what they can.

1:09.5

There's a famous line from the Peloponnesian

1:11.6

wars that strong do what they can, the weak suffer what they must. And so I think in Donald Trump's

1:16.2

world, there are three ruthless mafioso countries. Russia will have hegemony over its region.

1:22.2

We will have hegemony over our region, and China will have a hegemony over their region.

1:26.4

And so anything that gets in the way of ruthless

1:28.6

mafioso is being eliminated. And some of that is international alliances. But some of this is just

1:34.2

the idea that you shouldn't interfere in other people's elections. And some of it is the idea that you

1:38.4

shouldn't be able to invade neighboring countries. And so all those rules are being rewritten by a somebody

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