For more on the moon on the ground from voters and the other big political stories that are shaping the week, we turn now to the analysis of Brooks and K-Part. That is New York Times columnist, David Brooks and Jonathan Kepart, Associate Editor for the Washington Post. Great to see you both.

Yeah, I'm not. Let's pick up where Lisa left off there. David, kick us off here. The anger she reported on yesterday from people at a town hall for

Republican lawmaker in Nebraska. Frustration with the Democratic lawmakers tonight, he's not

doing more. What do you take away from this? And what do you think lawmakers are taking away

from these town halls during this recess? It's a traumatic time, obviously. A lot of us feel

traumatized and embarrassed, grief ridden by what's

happening in the country but a couple things have to be said first the town

halls are not representative where the country is obviously people who show

up at a town hall are unrepresentative and if you look where the country is

you've got to have anecdotes like a town hall oh maybe that's something but then

you got to have data and so far the polls show Trump is slipping a little,

but not a lot.

And so we haven't yet seen the kind of collapse

the town halls kind of suggest.

The second thing is, what does fight mean in this context?

We all want to fight back.

But what does fight mean?

Does fight mean going on social media and saying something all your followers agree with? Like, that doesn't sound like fighting to me. It may make you feel good, but that doesn't sound like fighting. And so to me, fighting is probably the wrong word in a democracy. Persuasion is the right word. And I do think there are persuadable Trump voters, and those are the people you have to care about. He's not going to worry if people in indivisible don't like him.

If you can persuade Trump voters that he is incompetent.

Don't go after moral outrage.

Say he just doesn't know what he's doing and he's causing you serious harm and specify what the harm is.

He's taking away this medical care.

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