Hello and welcome to 10 Blocks, the podcast of City Journal. I'm Associate Editor Seth Barron, your host for today's episode.

We're joined by a special guest, Brooklyn Borough President Eric Adams.

Eric Adams served for more than 20 years as a New York City police officer, was elected to the

State Senate where he served four terms, is currently in his second term as president of the borough of churches, and is also a candidate for the mayoral election to take place next year.

This interview was recorded last week, and there have been some developments since then, including the planned shutdown of the New York City subway system every

night, which was anticipated in our interview. Now, my discussion with Eric Adams.

You know, I don't know how long it takes to walk 10 blocks nowadays because there are no

crowd out there.

That's a good point.

This could be, well, we can make it like 20 blocks, 15 blocks.

How are you doing, Borough President, with the lockdown?

Good.

I think that the city divided its human capital into essential and non-essential employees.

I consider myself as an essential employee.

I find it challenging to tell police officers to patrol and train operators to drive the trains and others to do a job and I'm home. So for the last 40-plus days, I have been sleeping at a borough hall and doing the things

that I believe in central employees are supposed to do, and that's give reinforcement to those who are on the ground.

Wow, you're sleeping in your office. Do you have a cot?

Yes, I have a cot in the shower and a few dumbbells, and I've learned to use the stairs

as my stair masters. I run up and down to the third, fourth floor a few times.

It's a great workout. Well, it sounds like you're a model civic official. Let me ask you,

let me ask you, Borough, President. New York City is facing a catastrophic fiscal outlook. Our budget could take a huge hit, maybe 10 to 15 billion dollars

in lost revenue over the next 18 months. And there's different voices about how this should

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