The Equal Rights Amendment, first proposed to Congress in 1923, sought to enshrine in the Constitution equal legal rights for all citizens regardless of sex,

to end the legal distinctions drawn between genders and matters of divorce, property,

employment, and so on. It never won the support of enough states needed for ratification.

The last really big push, the headline-grabbing effort, was in the early 70s,

a moment that saw the rising influence of what's called second-wave feminism,

a movement and a set of ideas that took off in the early 60s

and seemed to both seep into the culture and to peter out sometime in the 80s.

Davy Waller is the creator, showrunner, and executive producer to Peter out sometime in the 80s.

Davy Waller is the creator, showrunner,

and executive producer of Mrs. America that showcases the political fight over the ERA

between the mothers of the movement,

Betty Friedan, Gloria Steinem, Bella Abzug,

and Shirley Chisholm,

and its fiercest opponent, the veritable Mrs. America, Phyllis Schlafly.

It's a brilliant and accurate piece of work currently airing on Hulu.

You know, I'm really glad through the miracle of Zoom that I got the opportunity to see you

because now I know that you are not of my generation.

You are previously a writer on AMC's Madman.

Now you've done Mrs. America.

Why is this era so interesting to you?

I think I'm really drawn to eras of social upheaval and disruption because there's always so much

fallout and in the fallout lies a lot of drama, particularly the backlash to the women's

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