We are so afraid of losing anything that we hold on for dear life to boats that are sinking.

And the only way to know whether you're on a boat that just has one hole that can be plugged or

whether you're on the Titanic is to look at your specific boat. We're going to

save all the good ones, we're going to throw out the bad ones, and we're going to

make new even better ones for

what's right for us as a society moving forward. Some 40% of Americans don't vote, but according to our guests today, among those who do engage, who vote and who are active in American public life, civic life, political life, those that are engaged in debates about the country's future are not, and I quote from her piece here,

still stuck in the battle between Democrats and Republicans or liberalism and conservatism.

The most vital debate in America today is between those who believe

there is something fundamentally broken in America and that it's an emergency in those who do not."

I'm quoting there from Alana Newhouse,

who's the editor-in-chief of Tablet magazine,

which she founded in 2009,

originally conceived as a news and opinion platform for Jewish

news and ideas, but it has grown to something much bigger and it's regularly cited by the

New York Times, the Washington Post, the New Yorker, and many other outlets.

Alana is especially interesting because not only is she a journalist, but she's a product of elite institutions.

She's a graduate of Barnard College and Columbia University School of Journalism and yet

she wakes up every day thinking that these institutions not only the ones she has studied in, but institutions across political life, the arts,

education, business, that are broken.

And she's written a very provocative essay called Brokenism.

The real debate today, she writes, isn't between the left and right, it's between those

invested in our current institutions and those who want to build anew.

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