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🗓️ 5 October 2025
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the History Extra podcast, fascinating historical conversations from the makers of BBC History Magazine. |
| 0:13.4 | Women's role as slave owners is often overlooked, but just like men, they both profited from and maintained the institution of slavery. |
| 0:22.6 | In her new book Ayruses, historian Miranda Kaufman profiles nine women who married into the British aristocracy, |
| 0:31.6 | bringing huge wealth generated from Caribbean slavery into the country. |
| 0:36.6 | I spoke to Miranda to find out more. |
| 0:40.5 | Thanks so much for joining me, Miranda, to talk about your new book, Ayruses. |
| 0:45.1 | So in the book, you look at the stories of nine wealthy women |
| 0:49.0 | whose fortunes came from slavery. |
| 0:52.3 | So what drew you to the subject of women who profited from enslaving people? |
| 0:58.0 | So it all went back to when I was commissioned by English Heritage back in 2006 to investigate |
| 1:05.0 | links between their properties and enslavement and also in abolition. And I spoke to some of the leading scholars at the time. |
| 1:13.4 | I was still a PhD student. I spoke to Madge Dresser and James Wolvin, who were amazing |
| 1:18.5 | titans of British enslavement history. And they identified sort of about 10 different ways |
| 1:25.6 | that a country house might be connected to enslavement for me to |
| 1:29.5 | investigate. And that range from people owning plantations and people or investing in transatlantic |
| 1:36.6 | trade, but also being merchants of produce like sugar or tobacco or even with the abolition, if some of the men who owned these |
| 1:46.4 | houses were involved in the parliamentary debates or at Kenwood Lord Mansfield was the judge |
| 1:51.8 | at some of the main court cases regarding the status of Africans in Britain. But one category |
| 1:57.9 | that stood out was this category of heiresses. So if the man who owned the house |
| 2:01.9 | married an heiress who had inherited wealth from Caribbean enslavement. |
| 2:06.4 | Before we kind of delve into individual stories, just give us a sense of the lay of the land. |
| 2:11.6 | How common was it for women to inherit plantations in the Caribbean and the enslaved people obviously connected to those plantations. |
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