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Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast

Bringing News Inside Prisons with Lawrence Bartley

Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast

MS NOW, Chris Hayes

Msnbc, The Chris Hayes Podcast, Government, Politics, Chris Hayes, Why Is This Happening?, Withpod, Versant, Ms Now, News, Society & Culture, Versant Media

4.69.1K Ratings

🗓️ 30 November 2021

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

Lawrence Bartley was just 17-years-old when he was charged and sentenced to 27 years to life following a movie theater shoot-out. Gunfire erupted after the group that he was with exchanged insults with another crew of moviegoers. According to the prosecutor, Lawrence’s bullet was the one that hit and killed an innocent 15-year-old boy. Filled with remorse and guilt, Lawrence used his time in prison to reckon with his past, while also finding his place in a rapidly changing society. His incarceration experience ultimately led him to create “News Inside,” a Pulitzer Prize-winning Marshall Project criminal-justice-focused magazine that’s distributed in prisons around the U.S. He joins to discuss how his experience led him to create the publication, changes to the prison system and life as a (now free) suburban dad. Sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts to listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads. You'll also get exclusive bonus content from this and other shows. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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because of my experience, which is a horrible experience,

0:04.3

but partly in having conversations with prison administrators

0:08.4

and knowing what, what, how they think,

0:10.5

and knowing, you know, the reasons that they would flag something

0:14.7

and what makes them tick and what, what doesn't,

0:17.1

and being able to have those straightforward conversations

0:20.0

without them having to explain to me the basics

0:22.5

of how a prison institution works.

0:24.8

That helps me get right to the heart of it and not waste time.

0:28.3

And I found that they're more apt to allow my publication in and not.

0:32.1

MUSIC

0:35.1

Hello and welcome to Wise is Happening with me, your host, Chris Hayes.

0:38.5

MUSIC

0:42.1

Of the many intense disruptions of the last year and a half

0:46.4

or more in the COVID period, one of the places in America

0:49.2

where this eruption has been the most acute

0:51.6

and the most miserable and the most dangerous

0:55.3

are in America's jails and prisons.

0:58.0

Obviously, in those places, social distancing is essentially impossible.

1:03.6

They have always been places where infectious diseases can spread fairly easily.

1:08.0

They also tend to be places with not the best health care

1:11.4

for those who are incarcerated.

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