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Bring Me Home: (Pt 2) Life in the camps

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The Times

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3.91.6K Ratings

🗓️ 24 November 2020

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

In the second part of our series on Shamima Begum, we explore the experience of British nationals detained in Syria. What are living conditions like inside refugee camps? And should Britain repatriate its nationals who live in them?


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Guests: 

Anthony Loyd, War Correspondent for The Times

Vera Miranova, Harvard research fellow.

Yasmine Ahmed, director of Rights and Security International.

Sir Mark Rowley, former head of Counter Terrorism Policing in the UK. 

Richard Barrett, director of the Global Strategy Network.


Host: Manveen Rana.


Clips used: BBC, The Times.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Picture this, static cars, idling engines, angry horns.

0:08.0

Now, picture you, zooming past it all, light and breezy.

0:15.0

Ah, the sweet feeling of whizzing past traffic.

0:20.0

Book your train journey via Avanti westcoast.co. UK.

0:25.0

avante west coast feel good travel. It was a fateful encounter in a crowded dusty camp, one that changed their lives forever.

0:47.0

My name is Shamima Begum.

0:50.0

And where are you from Shamima?

0:52.0

I'm from the UK. You're one of the

0:55.4

Bethnal Green girls right? Yes I'm not a Bresnal Green girls.

1:00.0

Yesterday we heard how the Times War correspondent Anthony Lloyd found

1:05.2

Shema bagam in Owl Hall, a camp in northern Syria. She was desperate to come

1:12.1

home.

1:13.0

I just want forgiveness really from the UK.

1:17.0

Like everything I've been through, I didn't expect that I would go through that

1:21.0

and you know losing my children the way I lost them. that was

1:23.8

losing my children the way I lost them I don't want to lose this baby as all and this is really not a place to raise children this camp

1:30.8

not maybe temporarily but not permanently.

1:34.0

That was Shema Begum talking to the BBC last year.

1:38.0

Within weeks, her third child was dead and buried in an unmarked grave outside the camp.

1:45.0

Children are routinely dying in the camps.

1:48.0

They're dying from preventable and treatable causes. malnutrition, dehydration, lung infections.

1:57.0

What is life-like inside the Syrian camps filled with former fighters and citizens of the Islamic State.

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