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Politics Unpacked

Bring Back Boris

Politics Unpacked

Anna Covell

News & Politics, Politics, News

4.41.4K Ratings

🗓️ 16 January 2023

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

The Conservative Democratic Organisation is a new group calling for Tory party members to have a greater say in how the party is run, and who it elects as leader. Matt speaks to one of its key players, Lord Greenhalgh, who says Boris Johnson is "electoral gold dust" and will be back in Number 10 by the end of the year. Former MP Matthew Parris says the plan risks blowing up the party altogether.


Red Box Reporter Lara Spirit has been back in the archives to learn about the general election of 1835 and the birth of the manifesto.


Plus Times columnist Rachel Sylvester and IFS Director Paul Johnson discuss the launch of the Times Health Commission, and whether high street shops are making a comeback.



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0:00.0

Hello, this is the Webbox Podcast. I'm Matt Chaudy coming up on today's episode. We go inside the conservative democratic organisation.

0:13.0

Group of boys, Johnson supporters want to give Tory party members a greater say. Could he be back by the end of this year?

0:21.0

We'll find out what's free to one of boys, Johnson supporters, plus Matthew Parris, times columnist and what he doesn't think will work out.

0:27.0

In a moment, we'll have the columnist panel, but first, every Monday, we are counting down every general election since the Great Reform Act of 1832.

0:37.0

Yes, it's Lara Spirit in the Archive.

0:43.0

Yeah, lovely stuff.

0:47.0

It is time for Lara Spirit in the Archive.

0:51.0

It's Lara Spirit in the Archive, going on up into the spirit of the Archive. Just see, it's Lara Spirit, Times of Webbox supporter.

0:57.0

Hot-footing it for the Times Archives. Every Monday, we are counting down a different general election from the Great Reform Act of 1932.

1:07.0

We kicked it all off last week and Lara was back for another election. Morning, Matt.

1:14.0

So, which election are we looking at this week?

1:18.0

We are looking at the 1835 election this week, so it's the election that follows shortly after that infamous Tamworth manifesto that I'm sure you want to talk about, which is widely considered to be one of the founding documents of conservatism.

1:34.0

Yes, so last time out, 1832 election. The Wigs won, the tour is lost. Wigs under Earl Grey, Duke of Wellington and the Tourist.

1:45.0

What happened in the sort of intervening years, and then what was the sort of the background of going into this election in 1835?

1:54.0

Yes, so the last one we spoke, we spoke about the 1832 election, which was, of course, the first election to be held under that new Great Reform Act, which completely changed the electoral landscape of the country, and partly because the Wigs had been instrumental under Earl Grey in bringing that into law.

2:15.0

The Wigs won a kind of landslide majority in that election. Now, in the interim, there's not a huge amount of political stability that had been promised as part of that kind of reform act, and actually a number of people in the more property owning classes became increasingly discontented with the leadership of the Wigs.

2:33.0

Now, Earl Grey, having already resigned, we'd seen in his earlier political career, finally, resigns in 1834 over issues with Ireland.

2:43.0

Now, the king kind of asks, so Robert Peel to come back. There's a kind of caretaker government from the Duke of Wellington, this Tory minority government, but the king asks, so Robert Peel to come back from Rome, where he's having a nice time in Italy, and he runs back.

3:01.0

And the rumors are swirling about the dissolution of Parliament, rumors that the Times editorial line is very frustrated about their keen for people to not lose their heads, but these rumors are going around, there'll be a general election very soon.

3:14.0

And into that steps, so Robert Peel in his constituency in Tamworth, and he is called upon to make clear what the Conservative policy on the Great Reform Act, but also of the other kind of abiding issues of the day around pensions, around marriage rights.

3:30.0

And most crucially, at that time, around the reform of the church to make clear what it is, and the Times receives, I've just tweeted it out, but the Times receives just before print these kind of quite immortal words from Sir Robert Peel.

3:45.0

And he issues this very long statement that the Times publishes in full at that time, we've just found in the archive, where he basically says, you know, the modern Conservative movement is one of, is one of kind of careful deliberation.

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