Hello and welcome to another bonus episode of the new abnormal.

Today we have an extra special guest with Brian Stelter, who's the host of reliable

sources as well as the author of Now and Paperback, Hoaxed.

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Welcome back to the new abnormal Brian Stelter.

Thank you.

It is abnormally wonderful to be here.

Well, we're so abnormally happy to have you.

Please expect this wordplay for the rest of the episode.

A lot has happened since you published Hoax and you and I are both like a big watchers

of Fox News because it really is about whether or in what is happening in the conservative

world.

Talk to me about what you see that's different from the hardcover to the paperback.

Well, I really did have to rewrite the entire book because Fox went further and further

to the right in the past, really in the past six months since Biden and the riot.

I opened the paperback edition with the day of the riot and Kevin McCarthy calling it

a fox, pleading for help because he's hoping to get through to Trump via Fox News.

But really, it's Fox running further to the right in response to Newsmax and one American

news and the GOP's radicalization.

People who thought it was bad and the Trump years, the network was moving away from the facts

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