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The Brian Lehrer Show

Brian Lehrer Weekend: Anthropic-Pentagon Standoff; Vaccines; Spring is Coming

The Brian Lehrer Show

WNYC

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4.61.5K Ratings

🗓️ 7 March 2026

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

Three of our favorite segments from the week, in case you missed them.

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0:00.0

Hi, Brian Lairer here.

0:01.4

Up next, Brian Lairor Weekend,

0:03.0

three of our favorite segments from the week,

0:05.0

packaged together for you to listen to on the weekend.

0:07.6

So enjoy, and I'll see you back on the radio Monday at 10 a.m.

0:11.2

on WNYC on WNYC.

0:36.4

Good morning, everyone. So let's talk about a standoff in the war

0:40.5

that's not between the U.S. and Iran. You may have heard this. You may have not heard this.

0:45.5

It's between the U.S. and the artificial intelligence company Anthropic. Now, Anthropic has

0:51.6

certain ethical guidelines that it tries to abide by in its AI product known as Claude.

0:57.8

They want to adhere to these ethical standards, even though they are a defense contractor voluntarily doing business with the Pentagon.

1:05.6

This is a war-specific dispute, yes, but it also raises questions for so much of the growing use of artificial intelligence

1:12.3

in so many parts of society and so many aspects of our lives. But on this specific story,

1:19.3

here's where the drama began. Last July, Anthropic became the first AI company to receive a

1:26.6

contract with the Department of War,

1:29.4

or still Department of Defense, if you prefer.

1:32.0

In this contract, Anthropic was granted national security clearances,

1:36.8

which allowed Claude to be used on the military's classified networks,

1:42.2

making it the first AI model ever to operate at that level.

1:46.5

But paked into that contract was a catch.

1:50.1

Anthropics' own terms of service, which prohibit Claude from being used in autonomous weapon

1:56.8

systems, we'll explain what that means, or for the mass surveillance of American citizens.

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