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The Tikvah Podcast

Bret Stephens on the Legacy of 1967, and the Condition of the U.S.-Israel Relationship

The Tikvah Podcast

Tikvah

Judaism, Politics, Religion & Spirituality, News

4.6620 Ratings

🗓️ 13 July 2016

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

In this podcast, Eric Cohen speaks with Bret Stephens, Pulitzer Prize winning columnist for the Wall Street Journal, about three of his essays that assess political life in Israel, America, and that analyze the challenges of the Middle East and the the modern West alike. “Born on the Fourth of June,” a Commentary essay from 2012, concerns the lessons and legacy of the 1967 war and what it means for current political challenges. In “Peter Beinart’s False Prophecy,” published in Tablet in 2012, Stephens reviews Peter Beinart’s The Crisis of Zionism, identifying its misleading presentation of the Israeli condition. The final essay was “Israel Alone,” a 2015 Wall Street Journal column in which Stephens examines the dilemmas that Israeli decision-makers now face, given America’s changing role in the Middle East.

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Tickla podcast on Great Jewish Essays and Ideas.

0:11.9

I'm your host, Eric Cohen.

0:13.8

A couple weeks ago, we were joined in person by Wall Street Journal Foreign Affairs

0:18.1

columnist Brett Stevens to discuss three of his most important

0:21.6

essays and columns dealing with the questions of Israel, America, the challenges of the Middle East,

0:27.4

and the crises facing the modern West. The first essay, which he published back in 2012

0:32.8

in commentary, is called Born on the Fourth of June. It deals with the lessons and legacy of the

0:38.6

1967 war and what it means for current political challenges. The second is a review we published

0:46.1

in Tablet criticizing and critiquing Peter Bynard's book on the Crisis of Zionism. In the final,

0:53.5

a recent column from 2015 called Israel alone,

0:57.4

deals with the new questions facing Israel, given America's changing understanding of its role in the

1:03.0

world and in the Middle East in particular. It was a lively discussion that we went from one

1:08.3

essay to the next, and I hope you'll find it of interest.

1:13.4

So let's turn to these three essays.

1:16.2

The first essay, which you published in commentary in July of 2012, is called Born on the Fourth of June.

1:23.7

So can you start just by setting the scene, What was happening in June 4th, 1967?

1:30.5

What was the world situation?

1:32.2

What was the internal debate in Israel?

1:34.4

What was the moment of decision that the Israelis were confronted?

1:39.4

Well, so how did I arrive on this ingenious topic of born on the 4th of June?

1:46.7

I was asked to give the annual commentary speech, and it just happened that it was on the 4th of June,

1:51.3

and I couldn't think of what to say.

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