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Breaking the Golden Handcuffs with 5 Kids | Sunny Burns | Ep 575

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Brad Barrett | Choose FI Media

Investing, Careers, Business

4.85K Ratings

🗓️ 1 December 2025

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

Episode Summary:

In this episode, Sunny Burns shares his journey to financial independence. After leaving a lucrative government job, he discusses the strategic choices that led to his success in real estate, alternative income streams, and how he's living a fulfilled life with his family of seven. Sunny emphasizes the importance of financial education for children and gives practical strategies for similar aspirants.

Key Topics & Timestamps:

  •  Introduction

    • Brad introduces Sunny Burns, bringing listeners up to speed on his prior appearances and his financial journey's highlights.
  •  Sunny's Journey to FI

    • Sunny discusses his transition from a mechanical engineer position to achieving financial independence at 35 and living a 'stay-at-home family' dream.
  •  Homeschooling and Financial Education

    • Importance of financial literacy for children.
    • Sunny's approach: establishing Roth IRAs for his kids and using the 'bank of dad' method for teaching savings (1% interest).
  •  The Power of Real Estate

    • Sunny explains the advantages of real estate investments, emphasizing control and cash flow.
    • His success with 11 rental units contributing significantly to his net worth.
  •  Traveling as a Family

    • Insights on funding travel through Airbnb, which allowed Sunny's family to travel while earning more than they spend (e.g., $2,300 made by renting out their house while biking 360 miles).
  •  Maximizing Travel Rewards

    • Discussion on the importance of flexibility in travel plans to maximize travel rewards and points.
  •  Closing Thoughts

    • Emphasis on the joy of being a stay-at-home family and living life on their terms.

Key Takeaways:

  • Invest in Financial Education: Teach children about money management early using strategies like the 'bank of dad' method.
  • Optimize Income Streams: Consider renting out your home (e.g., through Airbnb) while traveling to subsidize travel expenses.
  • Real Estate as a Viable Investment: Maintain control over personal finances through rental properties which can produce consistent income.
  • Flexibility Equals Opportunity: Travel smartly—being flexible can maximize travel rewards and opportunities.

Actionable Steps:

  •  Implement a savings incentive model like the 'bank of dad.'
  •  Explore renting out your home on Airbnb as a potential income source while traveling.
  •  Look into real estate investment as a means to create a steady stream of passive income.

Key Quotes:

  • "Achieving financial independence means spending quality time with family." - Sunny Burns [Timestamp: 00:53:37]
  • "Turn your home into a source of income while traveling." - Sunny Burns [Timestamp: 00:38:44]
  • "Financial education starts early; equip your kids with Roth IRAs." - Sunny Burns [Timestamp: 00:07:26]

Resources:

Discussion Questions:

  • What financial independence lessons resonated most with you from Sunny's journey? [Timestamp: 00:54:54]
  • How can we better involve our children in financial education? [Timestamp: 00:07:26]
  • What are your thoughts on using Airbnb as a funding strategy for travel? [Timestamp: 00:38:44]

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to Choose a Phi. Today in the show, we have Sunny Burns back after six plus years.

0:06.3

When he last was on in episode 139, he was 88.92% of the weight of FI. And what an interesting guy.

0:15.9

His episode was one that really stuck with me because he had a little bit of everything. And he was just so

0:21.6

optimized in terms of his fly journey with real estate. He flipped cars. I think he flipped

0:28.5

over 17 different cars. He just had this wealth of knowledge and just a lot of these little hacks

0:36.0

that were incredibly interesting, including this smart

0:39.3

scholarship from the Department of Defense that actually paid him $25,000 a year to go to college,

0:45.8

plus those years for free. And it was just an incredible story. And he followed up with me earlier

0:51.1

this year saying he reached five. And he left his W2 job seven months ago after working for 13 years as a mechanical engineer with the DOD. And he gave up really what were the golden handcuffs of a $147,000 year job. But now his family of seven are living the stay-at-home dream that they always planned. I think you're really going to enjoy

1:12.0

this episode. It has a ton of actionable knowledge, a ton of fun things. I'm going to leave it at

1:17.2

that. And with that, welcome to choose a fI. Before we get started, I keep this podcast entirely ad-free for two reasons.

1:29.3

First, this is a five podcast and I don't want to promote products that I don't want you to buy in the first place.

1:34.7

And second, I really like the clean listening experience of a show where you don't have to fast forward ads.

1:40.2

To keep it ad-free, all I ask of you as a listener is the next time you open a travel rewards credit card, go to choosefi.com slash cards.

1:48.7

And with that, onto the show.

1:55.7

Sonny, welcome back to ChooseFI.

1:58.0

It's good to see you.

1:59.0

Hey, it's so good to be here.

2:00.2

Six years it's been.

2:01.6

Isn't that crazy? Yeah, neither of us could believe how long it was.

2:04.9

So episode 139, 139, and then 139 R, which we used to do these roundups every Friday for a couple of years.

2:14.3

So anybody who wants to go back and listen to Sunny's first two episodes,

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