What's up, Batty Bees? I'm Brianna, Mom, Wife, Serial Entrepreneur, and host of the Badass Basic Bitch Podcast.

Each week, I sit down with a seemingly ordinary woman who's doing extraordinary things,

and I get to share her story with you. So let's go. Buckle up as we're going to get real,

and dive into the shit nobody talks about. Welcome to the Batty B Club.

Pretend you're an actor. What would swagger look like in the work environment that you're in? And make it authentic. Don't make it something that's totally not you. But if that's what it looks like, try to pretend like that's you. Act like that until it becomes you. And it really did work for me. I would not advocate for myself. I would watch people who had a tremendous amount

of swagger and I'd be like, oh my gosh, that's not super accurate or you didn't do these

10 things. And it didn't matter. I think you've got to play the part and label it. And for me,

swagger is what I wanted. And I think I'm much, much better at it today. But I faked it until I made

it. Welcome back to another episode of Badass Basic Bitch.

We are in person today with Pilar Shank, mom of three and COO at Cisco Global Security

and Collaboration.

And today we are going to be talking all about the struggles of being a career-driven woman and mom and

busing through that glass ceiling because Pilar has done that at multiple companies with Dell,

McAfee, and Cisco. So Pilar, thank you so much for being with us today.

It is such an honor to be here and it's so much fun to be in person.

And so thank you for that.

Such a nice change. Agreed. I'm so happy to be in person. Why don't you tell our audience a little bit

more about who you are and what you do? Yeah. So I have been working in technology for over 20 years.

I grew up Adele, so I spent 15 years

at Dell. I probably changed job every two to three years. Dell was amazing and in giving

me opportunity to try lots of different things, which helped me figure out what I loved,

what I didn't love, and what I was also good at. After 15 years of Dell, I moved on. I said,

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