So you sat there doing all this financial modeling and I love doing stuff like that by the way.

I actually love sitting there and working out.

Is everything going to be okay?

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This is Michael Cohen and you're listening to the Mayer Copa podcast.

Are we all Republicans here?

That's the sort of question we've come to expect from Rudy Giuliani when he's twisting arms for Trump.

And Rudy really went to town during the aftermath of Trump's decisive loss in 2020.

Apparently, some Republicans like Arizona how Speaker Rusty Bowers didn't care if they were all Republicans or not.

He answers to God and not to Trump and certainly not to Rudy.

Bowers said without the proof there was no way he would even entertain what Trump wanted,

which was to call a special session and have the legislature change the electors from Biden to Trump.

And it is a tenet of my faith that the Constitution is divinely inspired of my most basic foundational beliefs.

And so for me to do that because somebody just asked me to is foreign to my very being, I will not do it.

When Bowers said no, he became the target of protesters.

He told the committee crowds would gather outside his home, accusing him of being a petafile.

It is painful to have friends who have been such a help to me turn on me with such ranker.

Bowers wrote in his diary, it is painful to have friends turn on me with such ranker.

But I do not want to be a winner by cheating.

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