Breaking!!! How Trump’s Big Lie Became the Big Grift + A Conversation with Hugo Lowell
THE OFFICIAL MEA CULPA WITH MICHAEL COHEN ARCHIVE
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4.7 • 8.8K Ratings
🗓️ 20 June 2022
⏱️ 90 minutes
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Our guest today on Mea Culpa is the groundbreaking, congressional reporter for the Guardian, Hugo Lowell. Lowell has broken a number of high-profile stories about the January 6th committee’s investigation. Join Michael and Hugo for an in-depth conversation about the January 6th hearings.
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| 0:00.0 | This is Michael Cohen and you're listening to the Mayor Copeland podcast. |
| 0:27.0 | And I heard this week that President Trump said I had the right to overturn the election. |
| 0:35.3 | President Trump is wrong. |
| 0:37.6 | I had no right to overturn the election. |
| 0:40.4 | The presidency belongs to the American people and the American people alone. |
| 0:45.0 | Former Vice President Mike Pence was the primary subject of the January 6th hearings |
| 0:50.1 | this last Thursday. |
| 0:52.1 | He didn't go alone with Donald Trump's plot to overthrow the government and steal the |
| 0:56.6 | 2020 election. |
| 0:58.6 | In other words, Pence resisted a coup. |
| 1:01.4 | A coup that even its moronic architect, John Eastman, knew going in was illegal. |
| 1:07.9 | Mike had wanted to comply. |
| 1:09.9 | He and his staff had asked around. |
| 1:12.7 | They saw it advice from some of the greatest legal minds in the country. |
| 1:17.0 | Well, he even went to Dan Quail for advice and everyone told him, don't do it. |
| 1:22.7 | Don't do that. |
| 1:23.7 | I'm sure that the plot to subvert the election results had obsessed Trump even before |
| 1:28.7 | the election was called for Biden on November 9th of 2020. |
| 1:33.5 | And by the time January 6th, 2021 rolled around, two whole months later, Pence definitely |
| 1:40.0 | knew who Trump was and what he was capable of doing. |
| 1:43.8 | Votes are still being counted. |
| 1:45.6 | This is disinformation and misinformation on a level that has not been seen from the |
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