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Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast

Breaking Government with Michael Lewis

Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast

MS NOW, Chris Hayes

News, Versant Media, Versant, Ms Now, Nbcnews, Why Is This Happening?, The Chris Hayes Podcast, Chris Hayes, Politics, Government, Society & Culture, Msnbc, Withpod

4.68.9K Ratings

🗓️ 30 April 2019

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

What is the most devastating impact Donald Trump has had on the highest office? His lies and rhetoric and bigotry have all had a poisonous effect on our national discourse. But when it comes to his destruction of norms, those are only the ones most visible to the public. What about the destruction of norms going on behind the scenes, disrupting the most critical work necessary for running the federal government? Michael Lewis, the prolific author of "The Big Short", "Moneyball", and many more, turned his attention to the engine rooms of government in the aftermath of President Trump's election. His latest book, "The Fifth Risk", chronicles not only the crippling of federal agencies under the Trump administration, but also the dedicated and tireless work of civil servants who show up every day, no matter what Hear more from Michael Lewis on his new podcast, Against the Rules with Michael Lewis RELATED: The Fifth Risk Medicare for All with Abdul El-Sayed Back to the Future of Transportation with Aaron Gordon Social Infrastructure Week with Eric Klinenberg

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0:00.0

I just had surgery on my hip when he was elected.

0:03.2

I was stuck in bed and there was being given these opioids

0:06.3

and I was in this horrible state of mind.

0:08.6

And I was kind of thrashing around thinking,

0:11.2

aside from my hip, why do I feel the way I do?

0:14.4

And it was because the sense that the Trump

0:16.9

was a risk-loving person and an ignoramus.

0:20.5

He was being given this enterprise

0:22.2

and I started thinking about all the different ways

0:24.7

he might kill me.

0:26.2

Hello and welcome to Why is this happening with me?

0:29.2

Your host, Chris Hayes.

0:31.2

I was just sitting here a second ago talking

0:33.2

to Tiffany Champion about what exactly we should do here

0:37.2

for the intro.

0:38.8

And I don't think we need a lot of introduction

0:41.8

for today's guest, which you presumably know

0:44.0

because you've read the thing on your little podcast app

0:46.0

that says what it is, so there's not like a big drumroll.

0:48.1

But we have Michael Lewis today.

0:49.2

Michael Lewis, the man in the myth legend,

0:51.2

Michael Lewis probably one of the most important

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