Welcome to Breaking Down Patriarchy. I'm Amy McPhee, all the best. And today I'm here with my friend Reese Harper. Thank you so much for being on the show, Reese.

I'm super excited and a little nervous because I told myself I was just going to do this and not like freak out about it or over prep and just like share what's on my mind.

But I actually have like a lot, you know, I have a lot of respect for what you're doing and

for the conversation this is starting.

And I think it's so important.

And so I'm just excited to share what limited perspective I can share on the topic.

Oh, I'm really excited and no need to be nervous.

This is going to be a really fun conversation. Reese and I, for listeners, we've known each other for a long time, 15 years,

16 years, something like that. Yeah, more than a decade for sure. Yeah, more than a decade. And

haven't had tons of contact in between. Actually, you've been closer friends with my husband,

Eric, throughout the years. But Reese's wife, Barbie Harper, did the episode on Invisible Women on

our season one. And she's just phenomenal. Such a great reading partner, such a great mind,

such a great person. And we're couples friends with the Harper's. And we've had discussions

about patriarchy through the years. And so, Reese and I were just talking one time and said, like,

maybe it'd be really great to have an episode on season two where Amy talks to a man and asks all

the man questions. And we just kind of have a spontaneous conversation about it.

So you're a brave soul to come on with kind of no safety net and no script or outline,

but just kind of questions.

And I really am grateful to you for being willing to have this conversation because it can be sticky

and it can make people feel vulnerable and

it can even venture into territory where people get feelings hurt. And so this is,

this is brave of you. And I appreciate it. Well, thanks a lot. Yeah, I, I think there's going to be

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