Welcome to the intersection of faith and culture. It's the wall builder show on a Friday.

Thanks for joining us for some good news today. David Barton and Tim Barton have stacks of good news to share with us.

I'm Rick Green. I'm just going to be like ping pong playing, you know, back and forth between these two guys as fast as possible to see how much good news we can share with you before you go into a great

weekend. David, Tim, looking forward to some good news today. I'm going to start us actually.

I'm going to throw the ping pong out there at you guys, throw the ping pong ball out there at you

guys. How about this? IRS actually saying what all three of us have said for years,

pastors should have the right to say whatever they want about politics. Their free speech is no

different than anybody else. That's not exactly what IRS said. That's what we've said. But they

have said, you can endorse candidates as long as you're doing it for your congregation.

I don't think it should have any requirements. But anyway, this is a really

good step in the right direction, guys. It is, it's funny to the caveat they put on it, where they

acknowledge that pastors have the same freedom of speech that any other individual has, and if they're

talking to their congregation, they can do that. But the irony that, well, you can't endorse it for,

like, people that don't go to your church.

Well, how many pastors are trying to endorse candidates in groups of people that are not their church?

And by the way, even the way that we're defining don't go to their church, right now with so many services being online and all, you know, broadcast on social media and lives and whatever else, it seems even

that is a tenuous position to take. It's kind of a vague ruling, but overall, it is really good

news. You know, guys, we were talking before we went on air, dad, as you mentioned, we're not

sure this is going to change a whole lot for most pastors because most pastors

have kind of already chosen a lane they want to run in, I mean, especially since COVID.

COVID, I think woke a lot of people up and a lot of pastors realized they need to start speaking out

on some of the craziness happening in culture, especially when we've seen some of the gender issues

...