Hi, this is Grant Cameron and you're listening to That UFO podcast.

Hi, everyone and welcome back to that UFO podcast.

My name is Andy and joining me for a look at some news this week,

for a bit of a breakdown fresh off of a secondment at Lockheed Martin,

working on some Tick-Tac technologies.

I've got Dan joining me for the first time in a while.

Dan, welcome back. Hey, it's good to be back and yeah, lots to talk about. It's been a little while and

I'm sorry that I've been absent. I got some of that anti-gravity goop on my boot and I was just stuck in

the, you know when a balloon gets stuck up in the rafters? I've just been like that for a month. But I got down. Chinese spiveling. Yeah. Yeah, good timing because we were going to do this last week.

I had a bit of a nightmare that day. And then the best timing for yourself and myself was today.

And a lot's happened since then, which has probably changed a lot of the chatter.

So probably less notes than normal

for this show, but a lot to go through. There's a really big talking point. Some random stuff

will go over. I've got some questions if we get to those. And a few of things I want to chat

about, given we're past that halfway point in the year, always like to look at where we've been and

where we may be going.

But Dan, will we kick off with the big news then to start off with?

The Tick-Tac seems so long ago, doesn't it, as a piece of news and a talking point.

2004, you know, this whole event that came to light in 2017 properly.

Idiots like us spoke about it in 2020.

It was like this launching pad for all these other conversations that happened over over five years.

And I took a back seat, hasn't it, for a long time? That I suppose, what more could you say about it?

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