BREAKDOWN: The Recession Discussion Is Incredibly Dumb
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4.8 • 689 Ratings
🗓️ 29 July 2022
⏱️ 20 minutes
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Summary
With two quarters of negative GDP growth, are we in a recession or not?
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“Recession” is the latest word to run afoul of our shifting definitions and political newspeak. This week, numbers from Q2 came out showing that the U.S. had seen a declining GDP for the second quarter in a row – a fairly standard definition of a recession. The political spin was immediate and tortured, but in today’s episode, NLW argues that the caring about the label itself may be the bigger problem.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome back to The Breakdown with me, NLW. |
| 0:09.2 | It's a daily podcast on macro, Bitcoin, and the big picture power shifts remaking our world. |
| 0:14.8 | The breakdown is sponsored by nexus.i-o, chain aliasis, and FtX, and produced and distributed by CoinDes. |
| 0:22.8 | What's going on, guys? It is Friday, July 28th, and today we are talking about, |
| 0:27.7 | candidly, why the recession discussion is just incredibly mind-numbing and stupid. |
| 0:33.4 | Before we get into that, however, if you are enjoying the breakdown, please go subscribe to it, |
| 0:37.7 | give it a rating, give it a review, or if you want to dig deeper into the conversation about |
| 0:42.1 | why this discussion is incredibly dumb, come join us on the Breakers Discord. You can find a link |
| 0:47.7 | in the show notes or go to bit.ly slash breakdown pod. Also a disclosure as always. In addition |
| 0:53.5 | to them being a sponsor of the show, I also |
| 0:55.3 | work with FTX. Now, today we are doing another macro day, and in some ways, this is part two of |
| 1:02.8 | yesterday's episode. Wednesday was, of course, FOMC day, and we got a 75 basis point rate hike, |
| 1:10.5 | which led to markets being kind of euphoric. |
| 1:14.2 | Why was that? Well, the big thing seems to have been the Fed's argument that the federal |
| 1:19.2 | funds rate at around 2.5% was now in the range of what they considered neutral. |
| 1:24.7 | In other words, it meant that the interest rate was no longer contributing to |
| 1:28.1 | an overheating economy. That plus really the end of forward guidance and the Fed saying that from |
| 1:34.0 | here on out, we were going to take things meeting by meeting based on the current data, |
| 1:38.4 | left many people interpreting the Fed as having hit and perhaps passed their peak hawkishness. Now, of course, many market participants |
| 1:46.9 | disagree and warn that this could be an extremely volatile period, a period in which one bad |
| 1:52.7 | inflation surprise to the upside, for example, could produce an even bigger than expected rate hike |
| 1:57.8 | in September. This is something that Fed Chair Jerome Powell explicitly |
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