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BREAKDOWN: Meet the $10B Asset Manager With a 10,000 BTC Treasury, feat. NYDIG’s Robby Gutmann

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4.8689 Ratings

🗓️ 12 November 2020

⏱️ 68 minutes

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Summary

One of the (quietly) largest players in the institutional bitcoin space discusses the changing investor landscape in his first-ever podcast interview.

This episode is sponsored by Crypto.com and Nexo.io.

Robby Gutmann is the co-founder of Stone Ridge Holdings Group, a $10 billion alternative asset manager and co-founder and CEO of NYDIG, the group’s bitcoin subsidiary.

In this first-ever podcast conversation, Gutmann discusses: 

  • Buying his first bitcoin from Craigslist in 2010
  • The personal and professional experiences that drove his team to bitcoin
  • Why bitcoin fits the firm's founding principle of financial security for all 
  • A set of key trends driving institutional investors and fiduciaries/asset managers into the bitcoin space 
  • Why the coming year is poised for even more aggressive expansion of the investor market for bitcoin

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0:00.0

the systems don't always work and historically evidence suggests they more often don't work

0:08.2

than do work in the long run. And so the idea of having an open source technology-based

0:15.8

alternative that an individual can proactively opt into, can vote with his or her day's labor,

0:24.5

that's just an idea that's never really existed before in human history,

0:28.3

that we find fascinating and we think has huge implications,

0:33.2

certainly for investment portfolios, been in a lot of ways. That's the smaller of the two

0:37.5

topics and the much bigger is what potentially it means for human freedom.

0:42.5

Welcome back to The Breakdown with me, NLW. It's a daily podcast on macro, Bitcoin, and the

0:49.6

big picture power shifts remaking our world. The breakdown is sponsored by crypto.com and nexo.io and produced

0:57.1

and distributed by CoinDesk. What's going on, guys? It is Thursday, November 12th. When the Bitcoin

1:05.8

story of 2020 is written, one of the most defining features will have been the rise of corporate

1:13.2

treasuries as a demand source for Bitcoin. This is, in many ways, simply the logical course

1:21.0

of action for treasury officials in a world where the macro narrative of Bitcoin as a hedge against what feels like a secular shift

1:30.7

to a world of unfettered money printing has become ascendant.

1:35.5

In August and September, the company that broke this wide open was, of course, Michael

1:40.6

Saylor's micro strategy, who shifted ultimately $425 million from cash into Bitcoin,

1:48.4

as we know that investment is worth much more now a few months later. Square followed suit

1:54.6

moving 50 million into Bitcoin in their corporate treasury. In October, yet another of these announcements came.

2:03.1

Stone Ridge Holdings Group, a $10 billion asset manager, announced a few things.

2:09.3

First, they announced that more than 10,000 Bitcoin would constitute their primary reserve asset.

2:16.4

Second, they announced that their Bitcoin-focused subsidiary,

2:19.6

Nidig's current custody asset management and financing balances exceeded $1 billion, and that they had

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