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BREAKDOWN: DeFi Degens Are Crypto’s Suicide Squad

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🗓️ 3 September 2020

⏱️ 18 minutes

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Summary

A look at the subculture and ethos driving the white-hot DeFi space, which has grown from $2 billion to $9 billion in total value locked in just two months.

This episode is sponsored by Crypto.comBitstamp and Nexo.io.

Today on the Brief:

  • Traditional markets falter, led by tech stocks
  • Bitcoin falls under $11,000 for the first time since July
  • Stablecoins mint $100 million daily since mid-July


Our main discussion is about DeFi’s “degens.” NLW talks about:

  • The numbers behind DeFi’s recent run-up
  • What “degen” means in this context
  • Why degen is, in part, a reaction to previous bitcoiner critiques of Ethereum 
  • Why degen is (in even bigger part) a reaction to a no-yield, artificially low interest world

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0:00.0

I see this interesting sort of rejection where people who have been on the other side of those

0:04.8

attacks who maybe were involved in other parts of the space besides Bitcoin are effectively

0:10.0

saying, look, if we're not pure and we never can be, we're going to go all in on complete degeneracy.

0:16.7

We see your accusation of shikcoin and raise you total absurdity.

0:23.6

This is shitcoin X absurdo, basically.

0:28.4

Welcome back to The Breakdown with me, NLW.

0:34.2

It's a daily podcast on macro, Bitcoin, and the big picture power shifts remaking our world.

0:40.8

The breakdown is sponsored by crypto.com, Bitstamp, and nexo.io, and produced and distributed by CoinDesk. What's going on, guys? It is Thursday, September 3rd, and today we are

0:48.7

talking Defi, but not all of Defi. Instead, we're going to dig into a specific subculture movement,

0:56.6

the DGens. First, however, let's do the brief. First up on the brief today, it is a bad,

1:03.0

bad day for markets. Bloomberg's headline is Tech leads U.S. stock's biggest route since March.

1:10.0

The S&P is down 2.87%, and the NASDAQ is more than

1:14.4

5% off the high. Now, interestingly, these are the three sub-bullet sub-articles that Bloomberg

1:21.8

connected to the news. The first was about jobless claims giving mixed signals, and what that had to do with is the fact

1:28.6

that while continuing claims and initial claims both were down slightly, the change in methodology

1:34.8

this week made it really hard to compare, and in some ways it seems like jobless claims are actually

1:39.4

up. The second sub-bullet was trade deficit swells to biggest since 2008, and I think that one's

1:46.2

pretty self-explanatory. The third one is again about jobs and has to do with tomorrow's

1:51.1

jobs report for August, where it says, jobs gains seen hanging on in August with tougher road ahead.

1:58.7

You take this all together, and what you have is a story where the markets

2:02.4

actually seem a lot more fragile than perhaps we've been pretending. The net result of this

2:08.7

can only be more action from the Fed and Treasury because God forbid there would be a reset

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