And the Is it that time of year already the Halloween special and it's an extra special

this week this year we welcome back to the show the one and only

Giulio Cesar Odie who is a fellow Scarlet imprint author and a magician of some

renown in an initiation into a bunch of different lineages and he's

coming to us.

This is the first time we've caught up at least publicly since his move back to Brazil in early 2020.

So it's been a couple of years.

And that's of course what we're going to be talking about.

We're going to be talking about Brazilian magical landscape.

So Julia, welcome back.

Thank you, Garland.

Thank you for having them back.

No, I cannot wait.

Well, let's just begin somewhere fun and friendly. How are you? You know, how are things being back?

Good, good. It's been a lot better than I thought it was going to be. I wasn't even sure to suppose the right move until I was

well into being here and I wasn't sure whether it's something I should have listened to or not and now it's clear that this was the right move.

So yeah, it's been great.

Yeah, this was a spirit directed move in the first place because for people who don't know,

you've spent, how long did you spend in Australia? It was about 12, 13 years? 16. 16.

Okay, cool. So, yeah, it's a that's a I mean I've lived internationally too that's a long time in in a place and it can be

It's always a big decision I guess heading home. It was for me after I can split my time

between two places but the same sort of thing like 14 15 years right?

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