This is CBSI on the world. I'm John Batchel. I welcome Mary Anastacio Grady, the editorial page.

America's columnist writing about Brazil. Much in the news because of the tariff dispute,

much in the news because of what appears to be an ongoing investigation of treachery during and

after the last presidential election. Lula de Silva is the president. Jara Belsanaro is the former

president who's now under various forms of restriction in his native Brazil. Maria, however, is

writing of a piece of this story that is very critical.

The man's name is Alexander de Marais.

He is a member of the Supreme Court of Brazil.

He's been involved in the story of Lula de Silva's renovation.

Come back ever since Lula de Silva left jail and was then

ruled to be eligible to be president. However, Mary is identifying what appear to be irregularities.

It's very difficult to summarize other than to say that someone who is very close to Jayapros and arrow, Philippe Martins,

has been challenged by the Brazilian authorities

and qualified in some way

because he's suspect of having been part of the investigation of treachery.

I'm going to stop there because it becomes extremely melodramatic.

Mary, a very good evening, you. Thank you for this.

D. Marais is a known aggressor towards Jaya Marcedaro and his circle. However, your story turns on

inconsistencies in U.S. Customs and Border Protection Office, especially in Orlando, Florida. What has happened that raises

these questions about the legitimacy of the pursuit of Mr. Bolsonaro? Good evening to you.

Well, good evening, John. And as your lead in indicated, this is a super complicated case. But basically,

what's happening is that former President Bolsonaro and members of his inner circle are being accused in Brazil by this judge and other members of the Supreme Court of having conspired to pull off a coup against Lula, because Lula won the election in October 22. A lot of Bolsonaro supporters did not agree that he had won.

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