Or it's a dreamer. Okay. Hi, this is William Ramsey. Welcome to William Ramsey investigates on today's show of a very special guest, a returning guest. His name is John Kleiszek. We talked earlier this month, August 2022, about his excellent book carrying on kind of a tradition of critique of American school system. The title of that book we talked about is school world order, the technocratic globalization

of corporatized education.

When we were talking, in other words, reading through his bio, he said he really had an

expertise on a book, very important book.

And actually me rereading it through, I saw so many things that apply today's world, but a very important book and actually me rereading it through i saw so many things that

applied today today's world but uh very important book brave new world by all this huxley

all do huskley however you want to pronounce that but uh ritzin i think published 31 32 he was

fairly young like in his 30s and it just showed a lot of knowledge and he's very prescient on a number

of things but john can talk talk more about that so john klyzek welbeck welcome back to the show

thanks so much for having awesome so for people who may not have heard our last show and i will put a link

to that in the notes can you kind of talk a little bit about your bio and what got you interested in becoming

an expert in this book, Gregman. Yeah, so my bio, you know, I teach college rhetoric, done it for

about 10 years now, wrote a few articles on the education system, on the corporatization of it,

and the technology aspects hooked up with Charlotte Thompson,

Israbee, who wrote it forward to my book, helped me get my contract with Chris Milligan.

And, you know, the brave and world stuff, I actually, I studied that before I really got

into, you know, sort of, I guess, this what might call the New World Order research in my book.

And it was actually given to me by a friend of mine.

He had a copy of it, and I just grabbed it one day.

I didn't read it until later in my bachelor's degree.

But it was at a time when I would have sort of started looking into, you know, some of these more, I guess we might use the pejorative conspiratorial, you know, theories about society. And ever since, I've taught it with my English 102 research argumentation and rhetoric class.

So basically we read the novel as something that's sort of entertaining.

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