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The Good Fight

Branko Milanovic on Globalization

The Good Fight

Yascha Mounk

News

4.6907 Ratings

🗓️ 24 December 2023

⏱️ 75 minutes

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Summary

Yascha Mounk and Branko Milanovic discuss the history and trajectory of global inequality. Branko Milanovic is an economist and a professor in the Graduate Center at The City University of New York. Formerly a lead economist at the World Bank, he is the author, most recently, of Visions of Inequality: From the French Revolution to the End of the Cold War. In this week’s conversation, Yascha Mounk and Branko Milanovic discuss Milanovic’s famous “Elephant Curve” graph and why global income growth is not as unequally distributed as he once thought; how we should think about globalization and its effects on the global balance of power; and why Milanovic does not consider himself a philosophical liberal. This transcript has been condensed and lightly edited for clarity. Please do listen and spread the word about The Good Fight. If you have not yet signed up for our podcast, please do so now by following this link on your phone. Email: [email protected] Website: http://www.persuasion.community Podcast production by Jack Shields, and Brendan Ruberry Connect with us! Spotify | Apple | Google Twitter: @Yascha_Mounk & @joinpersuasion Youtube: Yascha Mounk LinkedIn: Persuasion Community Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:43.4

as giving legitimacy to the interlock.

0:46.1

And now the good fight with Yasha Monk. A few days ago the Supreme Court of the State of Colorado has disqualified Donald Trump from running for the 2024 presidential election, removing

1:09.3

his name from the primary ballots in this state.

1:14.0

Now, as listeners to this podcast will know,

1:18.0

I consider Donald Trump to be a serious threat to democratic institutions in the United States.

1:27.0

And I'm deeply concerned about the fact that he is currently beating Joe Biden in head-to-head polls for the upcoming election.

1:39.0

We are in a slow-moving train wreck in which we are watching as the accident is about to unfold and nobody

1:52.0

seems to be doing anything to avert the collision.

1:57.0

I am deeply concerned about what will happen over the course of this coming year.

2:05.0

So you might think that I would cheer on the Supreme Court of Colorado and yet I worry that this is not going to help us contain the threat of Donald

2:21.5

Trump. This is most obviously the case because the legal theory that was

2:27.2

used to disqualify Donald Trump is rather dubious. Seven out of seven of the judges in Colorado were dominated by

2:37.9

Democrats and yet it was a close ruling with four judges to three. By all accounts it is very likely

2:50.3

that the Supreme Court will reverse what happened in Colorado,

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