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That's what she said. Welcome to That's what she said. Conversations with interesting people

from the world of sports, music, comedy, and more. Talking about their lives, careers, successes,

and failures. My name is Brandon Copeland. My dilemma is trying to figure out what the world

will look like two days from now, two weeks from now, two months from now, two years from now.

I think that's the world's dilemma, but as a businessman and just as a human being in general,

I'm trying to figure out what the world will look like so that I can kind of be people there.

Oh, Brandon, you're really speaking to me right now. I was just talking to actually multiple people

about how the first three and a half months of the pandemic, I was doing a really great job of

just addressing what was right in front of me. I'm going to handle today. I'm going to look

ahead the next couple days, make sure I've got my schedule in order, but I'm not going to think

ahead at all. I'm a complete control freak and compulsive planner. Being willing to just let

months go by and realize that vacations were gone, work trips were gone, really cool planned

stuff that was in the works for years were gone. I was kind of okay with it for a while.

Then it became summer and then it got a lot harder to not look ahead and not plan. Then it was

about our kids going back to school and then it was about what happens to sports, right? We kept

holding up the summer and the fall is like when all these sports would be back and life would

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