Hey, wonderfuls. Welcome to episode 522 of the JV club with my boy of summer, the great, great video Dave.

Dave and I met on the Jocco cruise and I am such a fan of his and just loved our conversation.

I know that you will also love this boy of summer if you are not already familiar with his work.

Please do so, become so. You will have opportunities in the description

with a link and of course during one of my favorite parts

of the podcast, what I lovingly dubbed the Vamp session

of the Nash. So check it out I hope everyone's doing well I will be at

Contropolis in New Jersey this upcoming weekend if you're listening to this that means it is this

upcoming Saturday and Sunday July 8th and 9th and after that I will be in Providence

Rhode Island the last weekend of July and I can't believe I have so many dates I feel like a

stand-up comedian over here. What is the de-

nope, nope, enjoy the episode. Oh, Have you always been a maker? Have you always worked with your hands and like is that what you've done with free time like when you were younger too?

Not necessarily. I mean I guess I always made paper planes and drew things and

I mean we used to make some nunchucks as a kid but I wouldn't I wouldn't think that

was like one of my defining characteristics of being a

not being a maker like where now I do think I am one but no it's not something I've always

been doing it's just it started more recently with the sewing and yeah and make most of my

making was digital was music and a lot of computer art still making big time yeah

let's go back to the nun chucks for a second.

I do need some more information on that.

There was a period when I think back on it and I like it makes me life I think I was selling

open mic for some reason at some point it came up but I was like yeah me and my brother used to make none trucks and bring him to school and sell him I was like oh man we would sell him yeah but like it it was just it was capitalism. It wasn't like weapons or trying to start fights or starting a secret

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