Hey, Wunderfels! Welcome to episode 481 of the JV club with my boy of summer, Abe Foreman Greenwald.

He is a dear, dear, one of my closest friends and also works on the beloved show Big Mouth on

Netflix he is just a delight and I hope you enjoy this conversation as much as I did. I feel like you will. I don't know why I got into ASMR stuff going on right there, but I hope everyone's doing well.

For any of you who I got a chance to meet at C2 E2 in Chicago a little over a week ago, what an

amazing and beautiful and wonderful time I had.

I got to tell you, doing live events where I get to interact with folks is maybe my favorite thing in the world.

It's just, it just gives me so much hope and makes me feel so much better about the things in the world that feel very very hard indeed right now

to so many of us.

And so I just cherish those exchanges and boy I hope to have just more until the day I drop dead whatever that is.

So hopefully I'll get a chance to meet even more of you in person at one thing or another

up to and including us of Sketchfest.

Hopefully that's going ahead.

The definitely looks like it's going to in January.

That's it.

I want you to listen to this episode and feel the love between Abe and Me. I'm so excited to have one of my dearest friends on the

podcast. And Abe, you and I met at The Huffington Post, which is just a weird thing to even hear myself say, still, after

all these years, because as listeners of the podcast know, I somehow like got coaxed into taking a job that I had no business doing but was in some ways

very fun and some ways the most stressful thing I've ever tried to do like almost 10 years

ago now which is crazy and and Abe and I met and you already

had you you knew who I was possibly because of the podcast but for sure for

burning love is that what is that what was I can't remember I know I'm trying to

remember back then but yeah I think yes burning love was definitely going

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