From the New York Times, I'm Michael Avarm. This is a daily.

Five years ago, after decades of resistance, the Boy Scouts of America made a historic change,

allowing girls to participate. Since then, tens of thousands of them have joined today.

We visit the story first aired in 2017 about how two ten-year-old twins were choosing between the Boy Scouts and the Girl Scouts,

and find out what's happened to them in the time since.

It's Friday, August 12.

Hi, is this actually recording?

This is, let me just make sure. Yeah, recording.

Okay, hi, I'm Cleo, and this is my room.

So, I have a shelf right here with a camera and some books and some Lego stuff and some paper,

and then I have a bed with a lot of stuffed animals, bedside table with a book, play dough, gum, watch,

fidget cube, chapstick, and tissues and other more books, and this is my heater with a bunch of cool little treasures,

and then there's my sister. Hi, hi, hi, hi. This is Elsa.

I'm Alistair Muk. I live just outside of Boston, and I have twin daughters, Cleo and Elsa.

Yeah, I am Elsa Muk, and I'm ten years old, I'm almost 11. My name is Cleo Muk, and I'm ten years old, and almost 11.

And do you like being a twin?

The first thing I'd say about my daughters is that they're very different from each other.

They've been their own selves since the day they came out. Elsa's been always much more extroverted.

I add a little more rough, I think, much more hyper.

It likes to be front and center, it likes to be in the middle of the action, definitely likes to be with whoever the leader is.

So I have hands, like, inked or joking. I have a multimedia sketchbook, another duct tape thing for art.

I have touch markers and a ho-hooo.

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