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Thinking Allowed

Boxing and Kickboxing

Thinking Allowed

BBC

Science, Society & Culture

4.4973 Ratings

🗓️ 6 September 2023

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

BOXING AND KICKBOXING: Can they transform lives? Boxing has long been cited as a potential cure for a range of social ills, including criminal justice failures, poor mental health and childhood trauma, yet little research has been carried out into how and why such claims exist. Laurie Taylor talks to Deborah Jump, Reader in Criminology at the Manchester Metropolitan University, about the potential of boxing as a mechanism for change among vulnerable groups.

Also, Amit Singh, Leverhulme Early Career Fellow in the Sociology Department at the University of Manchester discusses his study of a kickboxing gym in East London where people struggle to gain an identity as a ‘fighter’, one that transcends race, class, sexuality and gender.

Producer: Jayne Egerton

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to share that science with you.

0:16.1

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0:25.4

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0:36.3

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0:42.4

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0:47.0

Hello several decades ago along with the late Stanley Cohen I wrote a book called Psychological Survival. It was based on

0:55.2

extensive interviews with a group of highly dangerous criminals who were housed in

0:59.8

the notorious Ewing of Durham prison.

1:03.0

Now one of the matters that interested us was the relationship between these men.

1:07.6

Their lengthy sentences of up to 30 years, a penal consequence of the abolition of the death penalty, and the highly confined, even

1:16.3

claustrophobic nature of the E-wing that housed them, meant that criminals from quite different

1:22.2

defending backgrounds, armed robbers, leaders

1:24.8

of violent gangs and individual murderers were necessarily in regular intimate contact with each

1:31.9

other. Now we did hear of internal disputes and even

1:35.0

one stabbing but we also learned the peculiar sort of harmony that seemed to

1:39.4

exist among the significant group of inmates who had dedicated themselves to weightlifting.

1:45.2

As one inmate told us,

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