Welcome back to the Wolverine podcast. I'm John Borden here with my good friend and almost a co-host at this point, Tom Crawford.

Tom is with us very frequently. You know him well from Press Pass with Jack Ebling on Sunday nights, Fox 47, and also the founder of the Crawford Podcasting Network.

These days, Tom, who is a resident of East Lansing, Michigan, has his hands full

dealing with the back and forth that goes on and is gaining steam even with regard to Michigan, Michigan State, and the post-game scenario.

Tom, first of all, welcome back to the podcast as always.

It's great to be back.

Now, here's what we've learned true things, and we've learned goofy, phony, made-up garbage things this week about, let's talk about, first of all, let's start off with the true things on the latest on the, the MSU game, post game.

We know that, for instance, Jemann Green's folks are pressing charges

in this development, and we know that it sounds like there's going to be a civil suit and

they've retained an attorney.

Talk about that aspect of it a little bit.

Well, I mean, it's a video.

It wasn't so much the first video that we saw in the press room that Jennifer Hammond had. And we all were hovering around when Blake Coran was speaking.

We're looking at the video. And then those questions got thrown to those two young men, him and JJ.

But it's the, it's a video from outside as from outside in. And I believe it was from a recruits, parents, you know, recruits, there were a lot of recruits there.

And there's a lot of parents, you know, they go along for the ride, if you will,

that are around the tunnel after a game.

Recruits go in for the game and in the locker room.

And so that the video with a helmet, the helmet pounding down on Jamon Green's head,

that, you know, you see enough of it that it's, it's jarring and disturbing. And there's only one number four who, you know,

plays for Michigan State. A lot of these teams have dup numbers, right? And, you know,

Jacoby Whitman appears to be that guy.

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