Welcome back to the Wolverine.com podcast. I'm John Borton with our video edition of the podcast.

Welcome back in our great friend. And the man who protects East Lansing as far as carving out a small niche of Michigan territory up there.

That would be Tom Crawford, of course.

Tom, welcome back to the podcast.

Yeah, well, I appreciate that, John.

And, you know, let me state, though,

there's a lot of Michigan people up there.

A lot of alumni up here like me,

a lot of diehard fans, a lot of amazing blue.

You see a lot of, a lot of Mats walking through Myers quite often. So it's pretty

much represented up here, no problem. Okay, very well. We obviously have to talk basketball

and some of the developments here. We have talked a great deal about the promise of Frankie Collins for next year and how he needed to develop and how he was probably going to be your lead guard and now he is going to be somewhere else.

And I know that has troubled you a little bit and I just want your opinion on Frankie Collins making the decision

to enter the transfer portal and being gone after his freshman year at Michigan.

You sure you want to ask me that, John?

Listen, this one struck a court. I mean, and this has been building up in me, and, you know, I, you know, I'm open-minded to the

NIL and then the portal thing that Jim Harbaugh threw out there like three years ago.

I remember at a Big Ten mini-days.

I mean, you and I were talking about that day three or four years ago, one-time transfer,

and then, you know, in that set, you can't do that again. But this is literally the wild wild west. And I think it epitomizes, and I'm gonna really sound the siren out right now, I'm gonna sound like a grumpy old man, stay off my lawn kind of guy. But maybe that's what I am today. But I hate to say it, this epitomizes that generation.

I have kids in that generation, and then they're not all that way. My kids are not that way.

But I've talked to a lot of human resource people in business, both that I know personally around

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