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Hello, snowflakes and welcome back to the New European podcast. It's a British eye on European

politics and culture from the people who bring you the new European newspaper.

That's people like me, Steve Anglesing. How you doing? Well, I'm back after a week's break,

which means that I managed to miss most of the Labour and Tory Party conferences,

something that I can highly recommend. I did see the leader speeches, though. I'll be discussing

both of those and both conferences in a moment

with the pollster and journalist Peter Kellner, who's talking about both parties,

quest for competence, the quest for competence.

It sounds like a particularly bad Star Wars prequel, doesn't it?

But what about those speeches?

Well, staying with the sci-fi theme, I mean, Kirstarmer's was a bit like that Blade Runner

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