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🗓️ 13 October 2023
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While scouring the Sonoran Desert for objects left behind by migrants crossing into the United States, anthropologist Jason De León happened upon something he didn't expect to get left behind: a human arm, stripped of flesh.
This macabre discovery sent him reeling, needing to know what exactly happened to the body, and how many migrants die that way in the wilderness. In researching border-crosser deaths in the Arizona desert, he noticed something surprising. Sometime in the late-1990s, the number of migrant deaths shot up dramatically and have stayed high since. Jason traced this increase to a Border Patrol policy still in effect, called “Prevention Through Deterrence.”
In a series first aired back in 2018, over three episodes, Radiolab investigates this policy, its surprising origins, and the people whose lives were changed forever because of it.We begin one afternoon in May 1992, when a student named Albert stumbled in late for history class at Bowie High School in El Paso, Texas. His excuse: Border Patrol. Soon more stories of students getting stopped and harassed by Border Patrol started pouring in. So begins the unlikely story of how a handful of Mexican-American high schoolers in one of the poorest neighborhoods in the country stood up to what is today the country’s largest federal law enforcement agency. They had no way of knowing at the time, but what would follow was a chain of events that would drastically change the US-Mexico border.
Special thanks to Centro de Salud Familiar La Fe, Estela Reyes López, Barbara Hines, Lynn M. Morgan, Mallory Falk, Francesca Begos and Nancy Wiese from Hachette Book Group, Professor Michael Olivas at the University of Houston Law Center, and Josiah McC. Heyman at the Center for Interamerican and Border Studies.
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Reported by - Latif Nasser, Tracie HunteProduced by - Matt Kieltywith help from - Bethel Habte, Tracie Hunte, Latf NasserCITATIONSBooksJason De Léon’s book The Land of Open Graves here (https://zpr.io/vZbTarDzGQWK)
Timothy Dunn’s book Blockading the Border and Human Rights here (https://zpr.io/VTPWNJPusaCn)
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0:00.0 | Hey, I'm Louis Miller. |
0:03.4 | And I'm Latham Nasser. |
0:04.7 | This is Radio Lab. |
0:06.3 | And last week, White House is waving more than two dozen federal laws. |
0:10.4 | You might have seen in the news that the Biden administration is going to resume construction |
0:16.5 | of a wall along the southern border. |
0:19.8 | This despite promising not to build another foot of the wall if elected. |
0:24.0 | So democratic mayors have been basically complaining about the waves of migrants coming to their |
0:32.7 | cities and states will destroy New York City. |
0:36.3 | Mayor Eric Adams escalating his frustration during a town which all kind of feels a little |
0:40.6 | upside down. |
0:42.7 | And that reminded me of a series of stories we did a few years ago that helped me to realize |
0:50.2 | just how complicated the debate around the border is and how that sort of feeling of |
0:55.3 | upside downness, it's that's kind of more a continuity than a change. |
1:01.4 | Anyway, all of that news just made me think we need to play this. |
1:05.8 | Yeah. |
1:06.8 | And as someone who was not here when this piece was made who had nothing to do with making |
1:11.0 | it, I am allowed to say I truly think it is one of the best things we've ever made. |
1:16.6 | It's called the border trilogy. |
1:19.0 | Which obviously means that it's three parts. |
1:21.4 | We're going to play them over three weeks. |
1:23.0 | We're also going to update it to talk to this current moment. |
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