Book Recap #35- Make it Stick: The Science of Successful Learning- What should chess players know about how to learn and retain information? (with Dr. Nick Vasquez)

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🗓️ 2 February 2024

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Our book review series, Chess Books Recaptured, is back to discuss a “non-chess” book for the first time. However, the information in this book is vital for any student of the game. Make it Stick: The Science of Successful Learning is an extremely insightful encapsulation of best practices for learning and retaining information. The book is written by Peter C. Brown, Henry Roediger and Mark McDaniel, and was the culmination of 10+ years of research. Joining me to discuss the book is emergency room physician and dedicated chess amateur Dr. Nick Vasquez. Nick has been blogging about how Make it Stick changed his thinking about learning and chess study, and we thought it was worth expanding the blog posts into a conversation. Key precepts of the book include the importance of mixing study themes, spacing out your study, testing your knowledge frequently, and emphasizing understanding and contextualization of the study material. Timestamps of the topics discussed are below. Thanks to our presenting chess education sponsors, Chessable.com! Be sure to check out their new courses including IM Christof Sielecki’s new course, and if you use this link to sign up for Chessable Pro, and/or make a Chessable purchase, it will help support Perpetual Chess. https://www.chessable.com/pro/?utm_source=affiliate&utm_medium=benjohnson&utm_campaign=pro Interviews Mentioned: Episode 286 Adult Improver Series Interview with Dr. Nick Vasquez Episode 349 with Dr. Anique de Bruin Nick’s blog posts about Make it Stick: Book Review- https://nickvasquezmd.substack.com/p/make-it-stick Chess Implications: https://nickvasquezmd.substack.com/p/making-it-stick 0:02- How did Make it Stick change Nick’s thinking about learning and studying chess? 0:09- What are the implications for opening learning of Make it Stick Mentioned: Make it Stick website 21:00- What is the difference between varied practice and interleaving? 24:30- How did the book alter Nick’s training plan? Mentioned: The Chess Steps, Practical Chess Exercises, GM Wojciech Moranda’s Books, GM Winning Chess Exercises for Kids, Anki 29:00- When trying to ingrain something into one’s memory are you better off studying things over decreasing time intervals or increasing time intervals? 33:00- More chess study conclusions Mentioned: FM Nate Solon’s How to Learn an Opening in 2023 40:00- Is is true that “there is no such as a learning style?” 45:00- Final thoughts and favorite quotes and studies cited. 50:00- What is a “memory palace? Mentioned; Moonwalking with Einstein 57:00- Thanks to Dr. Vasquez for rejoining me! Be sure to sub to his blog here: https://nickvasquezmd.substack.com/ If you would like to help support Perpetual Chess via Patreon, you can do so here: https://www.patreon.com/perpetualchess Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hello, everyone, and welcome back to perpetual chess.
0:07.9	Chess Books Recaptured.
0:09.1	Of course, this is a periodic book review series, and we're going to try something new
0:13.2	for this one.
0:14.2	We are going to review a book that is not about chess.
0:17.7	It is, however, chess adjacent.
0:19.5	It is called Make It Stick, the Science of Successful
0:22.0	Learning. I think regular listeners to the pod will have heard it mentioned a few times. Those of you
0:27.1	wonderful listeners who read my book may have noticed it was quoted a few times, and it's a brilliant
0:32.0	book with a lot of actionable takeaways for how to study chess. So we'll be introducing our guest,
0:37.3	co-host, and digging into it momentarily.
0:39.8	Before we do that, I did want to give a quick shout out to our presenting chess education sponsors, chescible.com.
0:46.2	Chescible, of course, is at the vanguard of some of the material that is presented from this book, the idea of space to repetition.
0:52.9	Chescible has its move trainer,
0:54.4	technology to quiz you, which as we will be getting into, is an important component of learning,
0:59.9	although not the only component by any means. But anyway, of course, Chesable is a crucial
1:05.3	component of developing opening repertoires, and it's good for drilling tactics, and you should
1:10.4	check out what they
1:11.0	have that's new and if you sign up for chessable pro using the link in the description it will
1:15.4	help to support and sustain perpetual chess as for our guest co-host he is actually a return
1:22.6	guest to this pod he is an a Arizona-based emergency room physician, husband, dad, chess enthusiast. He's
1:29.9	made significant improvement in his chess game. In episode 286, he talked about how chess sort of
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