The Athletic. Welcome to the Athletic Football Podcast. I'm Ian Irving and coming up on today's show

David Ornstein joins us for a midweek transfer round up with Manchester United's

offer to free agent Christian Ericsson

Calvin Phillips moved to Man City and Tottenham looking like they mean serious business all on the

agenda plus Everton correspondent Greg O'Keefe has been digging into the fascinating story the First up though the athletics jackpip brook is here to reflect on what's been a strange week or so that's one word for it for Garris Southgate England team the result last night an embarrassing

for nal home defeat to Hungary was the country's heaviest home defeat in nearly a century,

the worst defeat anywhere for 12 years. It's piled the pressure it seems on Garif Southgate

if you listen to the fans if not the squad.

Tonight was the sort of night that a lot of my predecessors have had an experience and it's difficult to stand

and I'm not going to say it doesn't hurt. But four games during this

Nation League period one goal and just one point with only two games to go to

Qatar. Are we allowed to panic yet, Jack?

Yes, I think so, but I wouldn't panic about the performances so much because I do take

Gareth Southgate's argument that this is such a weird set of get out four games at the end of the season.

It's been an exhausting season.

He hasn't got his full squad available.

He's had to rotate and ultimately be, you know, I hate to say it, these games don't matter a lot then it's not

very important that the England should finish you know second rather than third or fourth

in their nation's league group so I wouldn't panic about the performance but what what is worth thinking about very seriously

is the level of feeling and the sort of toxicity and personal abuse and everything targeted at Garris Southgate at Moninue last night.

Like I've been covering England for years and I never thought, I never thought I see this.

I always thought that Southgate was different somehow, that Southgate was, uh. He generated so much credit through everything

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