Hi, everyone listening to the podcast. This is Ari Melbourne. We have something pretty special that I've already heard from some of you guys about, which is my interview with the Chicago musician Vic Mensa. He made this very controversial, powerful video that shows American kids in Trump-style immigration cages. We talk about that and a lot of other things. He also brought up the fact that at one point Donald Trump was the most cited person in all of hip-. And that's something that we've thought a lot about, no surprise, but there's more to it. And that goes to the next thing you're going to hear right after the interview. This is an exclusive that we've never put out on the pod or on the beat. And it's my discussion of the arc of Donald Trump's relationship with hip hop, something we might be able to learn from. And after that, Vic Mensa's previous appearance on The Beat when he was talking about his work on the March for Our Lives. As you can tell, he is a pretty politically active musician. As always, thanks for listening to The Beat with Ari Melbourne. I was just reading some of you commenting on our new podcast feature, Uncourt. If you post comments or ratings on Apple, iTunes,

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And up next, Vic Mensa on the beat.

Democratic presidential candidates are gathering for a major liberal forum today,

Reverend Barber, co-hosting the Poor People's Campaign Presidential Forum,

MSNBC's own Joy Reid, will be there. The candidates are expected to tackle poverty,

inequality, and discrimination on immigration, which is already a huge issue for Democrats on

the trail. On the issue of immigration, he has also defied who we are morally and who we say we are to the world.

A humanitarian crisis created by this president through cruel policies like family separation.

The America I see values basic human decency, not snatching children from their parents.

It's a disturbing picture.

They're all on concrete floors in cages.

This is a moral vandalism on the ideals of our country.

A moral vandalism.

You know, of the many controversies of this Trump era,

perhaps no policy has drawn more condemnation than family separations and the caging of children, including this new story about Trump officials who split up this four-month-year-old child from his parents.

This is the youngest child separation that we know about ever.

His parents say he was different when they were united about half a year later.

This is documented a new footage from the New York Times.

I remember just him like nuzzling this head up under my chin.

Like I knew in the next hour he was going to be gone.

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