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American Prestige

Bonus - The Trump-Putin Summit w/ Charles Kupchan (Preview)

American Prestige

Daniel Bessner & Derek Davison

History, Politics, News

4.8705 Ratings

🗓️ 24 August 2025

⏱️ 9 minutes

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Summary

Subscribe now for the full episode. Danny and Derek welcome back to the show Charles Kupchan, senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations and professor of international affairs at Georgetown University, to talk about this week’s summit in Alaska attempting to find an end to the Ukraine war. They examine Trump’s chaotic Ukraine diplomacy, the future of security guarantees, whether Russia will relinquish occupied territory, the US geostrategic interest in Ukraine, America’s declining global dominance, and the failures of US foreign policy expertise.  Read Charles’s piece in Foreign Affairs, “Close NATO’s Door to Ukraine.” Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello, American Preston to your soul.

0:07.0

Hello American Prestige listeners. It's Derek. I'm joined, as always, by my friend

0:26.1

Comrade, Danny Vester, and we're very pleased to welcome back to the program,

0:30.1

returning champion Charles Clipchin, senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations

0:33.9

and Professor of International Affairs at Georgetown University and also the author

0:38.3

of an article earlier this summer of Foreign Affairs called Closed NATO's Door to Ukraine.

0:43.8

We thought it would be interesting to talk about that piece.

0:47.3

And then, of course, Donald Trump decided to do a whirlwind of Ukraine diplomacy over the past

0:52.3

week.

0:52.5

So this is a timely episode in that sense.

0:55.3

Charles, thank you so much for coming back to the program.

0:58.1

Derek, Danny, good to be back with you guys.

1:01.6

So we didn't turn you off the first time.

1:05.0

That's good to know.

1:06.3

You did, but I feel like to make anyone.

1:10.6

Well, it's very gracious of you.

1:12.8

Yes.

1:14.0

So rather than get into your piece, I think the piece will come up naturally as we start

1:18.7

to talk about what a peace settlement might look like or security guarantees might

1:22.1

look like.

1:22.8

Let's start with the last week.

1:24.3

Donald Trump on last Friday, we're recording this just to be clear, on August 20th,

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