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🗓️ 15 May 2025
⏱️ 30 minutes
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On May 12, the US and China reached a deal to temporarily reduce tariffs for 90 days, offering a breather from an escalating trade war. Stocks surged on the news, but experts warn this relief might not fully resolve deeper industry uncertainties or consumer anxieties.
BoF retail editor Cathleen Chen and technology correspondent Marc Bain join hosts Brian Baskin and Sheena Butler-Young to unpack the ramifications of the tariff pause and what the fashion industry can expect moving forward.
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0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to the debrief from The Business of Fashion, where each week we delve into our most popular B.O.F. professional stories with the correspondents who created them. I'm executive editor Brian Baskin. |
0:19.2 | And I'm senior correspondent correspondent Sheena Butler Young. |
0:22.4 | On Monday, May 12th, the U.S. and China announced a deal that would have both countries lower tariffs for three months. |
0:29.4 | The rest of the day played out like Liberation Day in reverse. |
0:33.0 | Fashion stocks rallied and business owners across the industry breathe a huge sigh of relief. But is the |
0:39.2 | trade war really over? And even if it is, can fashion ever go back to how things were on April 1st? |
0:45.2 | Joining us to discuss our B-O-F retail editor Kathleen Chen and B-O-F correspondent and tariff guru, Mark |
0:51.3 | Bain. Hi, Kat, hi Mark. Welcome to the debrief podcast. |
0:54.8 | Hey, guys. |
0:55.8 | Hey, Sheena. |
0:56.8 | So I think we should start with what is becoming my favorite reoccurring opening question on the debrief, which is, |
1:03.4 | Cat, Mark, what just happened? |
1:05.6 | So on Monday, after a weekend of talks between the Trump administration and China, we got a deal |
1:13.0 | that would essentially de-escalate the trade war for a 90-day period. We'll see what happens |
1:19.3 | at the end of that period. But for now, the giant tariffs that the U.S. and China had put on |
1:25.5 | each other's goods have come down, not all the way, but down significantly. So the U.S. and China had put on each other's goods have come down, not all the way, |
1:28.3 | but down significantly. So the U.S. tariff on China goes from 145 percent down to 30 percent, |
1:36.3 | and the Chinese tariff on U.S. goods went down from 125 percent to 10 percent. |
1:42.3 | Why did the U.S. and China decide to ease tensions now? Like, what was driving the |
1:46.8 | decision now? Or do we even know? Because it seems like we often don't know. I mean, I think it's |
1:51.2 | just because both sides were aware that this was not going anywhere good. The analysis that I've |
1:57.4 | generally seen is that the Trump administration blinked, that China really held firm, and the U.S. is kind of the side that backed down first. |
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