Hey, it's Chris Hayes. I'm excited to tell you about a special, why is this happening podcast series we're launching called

with pod 2024 the stakes for the first time since 1892 we have an election in

which both candidates have presidential records.

It's a unique chance to take a hard look at what both Joe Biden

and Donald Trump have actually done as president.

I'm talking to experts about both candidates records on specific policy areas. Stay right here to hear the entire

first episode where I've talked to American Immigration Council Policy Director

Aaron Reiklin Melnick. Search for why is this happening and follow to listen to

the whole series new

episodes drop on Tuesdays.

When Biden took office the legal immigration system was like a cruise ship that was

on fire and listing it hadn't fully sunk yet but things weren't looking good. So right now the

fire is out. They've mostly write it a lot of the list, but the engines aren't really going yet.

Hello and welcome, why is this happening with me, your host Chris Hayes. Well, the general election is set barring some unforeseen circumstances. It's going to be Joe Biden and Donald Trump and for the first time in

140 or 150 years the two men running against each other each have been

president and each have actual records and one of the things that drives me a

little crazy about the way the campaign is framed and covered is the fact that it seems to ignore that fact.

And one thing I've noticed about the vortex of Donald Trump's sort of

intentional vortex is that the craziness around him can obscure some of the more

basic meat and potatoes questions of like where is Donald Trump on

education policy where's Joe Biden been on education policy what have they done

with the Interior Department under Joe Biden and how would that Interior

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