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🗓️ 5 November 2025
⏱️ 35 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Last night, the once unimaginable happened. New York City elected a socialist as mayor. |
| 0:06.6 | Zoran Mamdani is a member of the Democratic Socialists of America, an organization dedicated to, quote, |
| 0:12.4 | transforming the power relations of global capitalism. Across the country, DSA membership numbers are at an all-time |
| 0:19.2 | high. Mamdani's unlikely victory victory and the momentum of progressive Democrats in general |
| 0:24.1 | is the latest sign that another profound shift in our politics could be underway. |
| 0:29.3 | But how did we get here? |
| 0:31.1 | I don't think you can answer that question without reading Thomas Sowell. |
| 0:35.6 | Seoul is one of the world's most influential economists and philosophers, and he's written |
| 0:39.9 | more than 45 books. |
| 0:42.7 | But a conflict of visions, first published in 1987, is his favorite. |
| 0:47.6 | In that book, he traces the underlying logic behind all modern political divides. |
| 0:52.6 | Why is it that knowing someone's position on one issue, |
| 0:55.5 | say gun control, makes it easy to predict their position on totally unrelated issues like abortion? |
| 1:02.1 | Some people would chalk it up to simple tribalism. But Seoul, who was a Marxist as a young man |
| 1:08.1 | before becoming one of the most important conservative thinkers in |
| 1:11.1 | America argues that it's something much deeper. A clash of instinctive visions about human nature |
| 1:17.9 | and the limits of social engineering. A conflict of visions is the book that I chose to discuss |
| 1:24.1 | with Shiloh Brooks on his new podcast, Old School. Our conversation, which was |
| 1:29.5 | recorded well before yesterday's election, illuminates why some of us buy into utopian projects |
| 1:35.1 | that seek to remake society, while others trust the quiet power of incentive structures, |
| 1:40.5 | like free markets. It was a great conversation, and I'm excited to share part of it with you |
| 1:45.6 | today. This is just a section. For the rest of the discussion, search for Old School with Shiloh |
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