Bonus: Schumer Shutdown-What to Expect plus Dem Rhetoric Keeps getting Worse, Inciting Violence & Endangering Law Enforcement
The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
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🗓️ 30 September 2025
⏱️ 39 minutes
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Summary
In this bonus episode of Verdict with Ted Cruz, Senator Ted Cruz and Ben Ferguson break down three major stories dominating the headlines:
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Michigan Church Attack: A shocking act of violence at a Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints leaves four dead and ten injured. Cruz and Ferguson discuss what this means for religious freedom, rising hostility toward people of faith, and the critical role of law enforcement in preventing further tragedy.
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The “Schumer Shutdown”: Why are Democrats risking a government shutdown? The hosts argue it’s a political move to appease the progressive base, despite the real-world consequences for federal workers, national parks, and everyday Americans. They also explore how a shutdown could impact the so-called “deep state.”
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Escalating Democratic Rhetoric: From comparing ICE to the Gestapo to labeling conservatives as fascists, Cruz and Ferguson examine how inflammatory language from Democratic leaders fuels division and even violence against law enforcement and conservative voices.
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| 0:00.0 | This is an I-Heart podcast. |
| 0:04.0 | What I told people, I was making a podcast about Benghazi. |
| 0:08.5 | Nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why? |
| 0:15.1 | Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies. |
| 0:18.5 | From prologue projects and Pushkin Industries, this is Fiasco, Benghazi. |
| 0:23.9 | What difference at this point does it make? |
| 0:27.4 | Listen to Fiasco, Benghazi, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. |
| 0:35.2 | Welcome, it is Vertiquist, Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you. It's nice to have you with us, |
| 0:39.7 | and we've got a packed show for you on this Monday morning, including the very sad news that is coming |
| 0:46.9 | out of Michigan, an attack there on a church, a Michigan church shooting attack. The new numbers we have |
| 0:53.7 | are four dead, ten wounded as of |
| 0:55.9 | when we are recording this. And Senator, it's just another tragic event we're witnessing. |
| 1:00.6 | Well, unfortunately, this is a pattern we're seeing over and over again of violent murderers |
| 1:05.7 | attacking churches, attacking Christian schools, targeting people of faith. In this case, it was the Church |
| 1:14.1 | of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, the Mormon Church in Grand Blank Township, Michigan. A deranged |
| 1:21.2 | man drove his truck through the front of the church while the church members were worshiping, |
| 1:31.2 | opened fire, murdered, as you said, |
| 1:38.6 | four dead, ten injured as of right now, and also set the church on fire. All of us, I think, |
| 1:46.3 | today saw the images of the church aflame. And at this point, we don't know the details. We don't know the motivations of why this deranged killer targeted this church. But we've seen so much hatred for people of |
| 1:54.0 | faith. And I will say right now, my prayers, and I know yours too, Ben, are with all of those |
| 2:00.1 | who are wounded, that they would reach a swift recovery, |
| 2:03.2 | where our prayers are with the families of those who were murdered, and everyone in the LDS Church |
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